Can Anyone Tell Me WTF Is Happening To My Plant?

iNFID3L

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I think we are seeing a picture her, mag def, zinc, iron, nitrogen! Underfeeding maybe?!



3 1 2 is a touch low in phosphorous but dont change this yet, try increasing the ferts and trace first.

i dont know how i can not change the fert ratio and increase them, i was already using at full strength.
 

iNFID3L

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i might just swutch to 2 2 2 anyway, seeing as last time i watered i didnt use any nutes, just epsom salt.

cant hurt.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
idk man, It just look like you have a thick canopy and the light isn't reaching the lower leaves. that's how the leaves dies naturally. the other leaves look nice and green so I don't think it's a N def, but I could be wrong. Could you put pics of the whole plant?
 

ganjaluva2009

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idk man, It just look like you have a thick canopy and the light isn't reaching the lower leaves. that's how the leaves dies naturally. the other leaves look nice and green so I don't think it's a N def, but I could be wrong. Could you put pics of the whole plant?
i agree with beansly on this one....your canopy is thick, light isnt reaching the bottom leaves and there dying off...not a super duper prob...only solution is more light....ganja
 

iNFID3L

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well here she is , under the light growing ....there 'might' be a bit of an N def going on, because last time i used plain water with epsom salt.

next nutes will be 2 2 2 im not happy with a 3 1 2 mix, i might alternate , 3 1 2 , 2 2 2, 3 1 2, 2 2 2


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MrGhettoGrower

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9th Week of Veg? Wtf are you going for the record:lol: I like to know what size pot your in, what dirt and nutes your using, is it outside or under lights if lights what kind and size? I veg for 3 or 4 weeks just can't understand 9 weeks!
 

Kingrow1

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9th Week of Veg? Wtf are you going for the record:lol: I like to know what size pot your in, what dirt and nutes your using, is it outside or under lights if lights what kind and size? I veg for 3 or 4 weeks just can't understand 9 weeks!
Hehe, is that an envirolite? I use the 250w envirolites, they just gone bust so now i use the plug n grow envirolites, every other make is rubbish compared to plu n grow and envirolite.

Yep thats too tall for an envirolite but dont agree that the leaves are recieving such little light they are droping of the plant, leaves right next to it look fine so this isn't right. Even at this size those bottom leaves should be good, ive had taller and bigger under an enviro and no bottom leaves dropped of.

Id rather see waht happens with increased ferts and the bio essentials, has this plant been flushed recently?
 

iNFID3L

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9th Week of Veg? Wtf are you going for the record:lol: I like to know what size pot your in, what dirt and nutes your using, is it outside or under lights if lights what kind and size? I veg for 3 or 4 weeks just can't understand 9 weeks!
ill be vegging for another 5 weeks AT LEAST, until i can afford the hps lamp i want, she will remain in veg, its under lights as you can clearly see ?

the pots huge and the soil is called westland organic , ive been using MIRACLE GROW 3-1-2 nutes. , she seems ok if im honest, and the more questions i ask, the peoples opinions conflict.
 

iNFID3L

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Hehe, is that an envirolite? I use the 250w envirolites, they just gone bust so now i use the plug n grow envirolites, every other make is rubbish compared to plu n grow and envirolite.

Yep thats too tall for an envirolite but dont agree that the leaves are recieving such little light they are droping of the plant, leaves right next to it look fine so this isn't right. Even at this size those bottom leaves should be good, ive had taller and bigger under an enviro and no bottom leaves dropped of.

Id rather see waht happens with increased ferts and the bio essentials, has this plant been flushed recently?
flushed 2 days ago, im with you on this approach, ill be adding a 3-1-2 nute mix, combined with that bio essentials when it arrives, following that i can start testing and adjusting my ph, and checking the soil ph as well, when the stuff arrives.

yeh ita 250 envioro. with some 60cm 6400k ho t5's on the walls
 

Dankster4Life

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5 more weeks??

That thing is going to be HUGE!

I would cut the top out if you plan on letting her go that much longer.Is she going to be flowered inside?
 

Kingrow1

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No way those leaves are underlit, 250enviro and t5's, i use all these and that is enough light believe me. With 5 more weeks veg this is gona be tall and give lots of lower crappy bud, id consider pruning and topping so always an option to control the height.

Did the flush make things worse? this might indicate underfeeding.

There are always a lot of conflicting points, i may be wrong but as always you need to address one thing at a time, if increased ferts dont work with the bioessentials then.

Problem solving plants is a skill in itself, you may not get it right first time and the plant will suffer maybe even die but what your aiming to do is eliminate the possibilities.

I use that westlands sh!te soil and get some pH problems after a while, i add lime to mine but i use the standard westlands seedling and flowering soils. Too much peat for my liking, i have to add 25 to 30 percent perlite and vermiculite to get good drainage. I would say these soils need a little liming before use but they generally are ok, i find most westlands soil is pH6.3 straight out of the bag so not great to start with either. You dont need a hps to flower with straight away, the enviro will start you off fine. If you can control the heat use the enviro, hps and t5's to flower with, should increase yeild s bit over just the hps, make sure it is all wired safe with contractors if you do as it is a lot of ampage.

Height is gona be an issue soon i think, 5 more weeks of veg is a monster plant! Peace
 

iNFID3L

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5 more weeks??

That thing is going to be HUGE!

I would cut the top out if you plan on letting her go that much longer.Is she going to be flowered inside?
inside yeh, when ive got the money to buy the right hps kit i want, 400 air cooled.

topping ? hows that done , and what are the potential dangers ?
 

iNFID3L

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No way those leaves are underlit, 250enviro and t5's, i use all these and that is enough light believe me. With 5 more weeks veg this is gona be tall and give lots of lower crappy bud, id consider pruning and topping so always an option to control the height.

Did the flush make things worse? this might indicate underfeeding.

There are always a lot of conflicting points, i may be wrong but as always you need to address one thing at a time, if increased ferts dont work with the bioessentials then.

Problem solving plants is a skill in itself, you may not get it right first time and the plant will suffer maybe even die but what your aiming to do is eliminate the possibilities.

I use that westlands sh!te soil and get some pH problems after a while, i add lime to mine but i use the standard westlands seedling and flowering soils. Too much peat for my liking, i have to add 25 to 30 percent perlite and vermiculite to get good drainage. I would say these soils need a little liming before use but they generally are ok, i find most westlands soil is pH6.3 straight out of the bag so not great to start with either. You dont need a hps to flower with straight away, the enviro will start you off fine. If you can control the heat use the enviro, hps and t5's to flower with, should increase yeild s bit over just the hps, make sure it is all wired safe with contractors if you do as it is a lot of ampage.

Height is gona be an issue soon i think, 5 more weeks of veg is a monster plant! Peace
i want to prune, not sure how, and when,the flush hasnt had a drastic effect yet.....,might not have flushed fully.

as far as the westalnd goes, its only for this grow, ill be changing next time around, and when my test kit arrives if i have to , ill add some lime.
 

Kingrow1

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No dangers you just cut the plant to the height you want it, read up some threads, real easy but see if it suits your situation. I cut the heads of mine and the side branches grow more, makes it more bushy. Peace
 

iNFID3L

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just over 2 ft right now, i have another 2 foot headroom at least, i dont think ill top or trim, i might trim when ive started to flower.

topping scares me, lol and i think its too late now anyway.
 
my plants did the same thing and i heard it can do that if you got spider mites. i used neem oil and they started to already come back .not to sure tho cuz its my first grow. the really light green one where yellow but turn back green kerpt.jpeg
 
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