Can compost teas be too strong?

GreenBean 420

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Three girls, 22 days old.

Decided to make my first compost tea
2 1/2 Gallon mix

Insect frass - 2 tablespoons
Neem Seed Meal - 1 tablespoon
1 1/4 cup EWC
Fish/seaweed extract - 5ml (don’t really remember)
Fish Sh!t - 10ml
Humic acid/fulvic acid - 2tsp
Mykos - 1 tbsp
Black stamp molasses - 2 tbsp

aerated for 24 hours. PPM was 850 I THINK
Added 10ml Cal/Mag+ before watering in. Believe this may have needed to be mixed in first but forgot.

End PPM was 1200 for the solution
PH 6.3
Is this way too strong for this stage of growth. On the fence if a PPM meter even works on the organics in a tea. It’s been 24 hours since they received the tea and they’ve grown more than an inch and a half over night but I still am curious if this is just too strong a brew generally. So far plants seem fine.
 

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Dr. Who

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That is a nutrient tea.

They CAN be delivered too strong!

Bio tea, is to add living bio counts to the soil to aide in nutrient use....

The use of Bio teas in as much as daily use. WILL reduce the need for nutrient use by at least 50%...

I did this for a cpl of years. It was not the whole run or in a whole op. Just testing to answer my personal questions on the matter.

I did it for a cpl of years and then went back to mostly organic water only growing
Thing is that idea is labor intensive as you MUST dial in every strain to the way you water and feed by amounts used... It's rather touchy but, another fellow here took my idea and ran with it himself .

He seemed vary happy with reducing nutrient cost!

You better be a damn good grower to try that too... things can happen quickly if your not paying close attention to your plants.
 

GreenBean 420

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That is a nutrient tea.

They CAN be delivered too strong!

Bio tea, is to add living bio counts to the soil to aide in nutrient use....

The use of Bio teas in as much as daily use. WILL reduce the need for nutrient use by at least 50%...

I did this for a cpl of years. It was not the whole run or in a whole op. Just testing to answer my personal questions on the matter.

I did it for a cpl of years and then went back to mostly organic water only growing
Thing is that idea is labor intensive as you MUST dial in every strain to the way you water and feed by amounts used... It's rather touchy but, another fellow here took my idea and ran with it himself .

He seemed vary happy with reducing nutrient cost!

You better be a damn good grower to try that too... things can happen quickly if your not paying close attention to your plants.
Didn’t see this response thanks so much! Yeah that’s too much work for me lmao. Well the plants are at 26 days now and I believe they loved the tea. No real signs it was too strong although next time I will most likely dilute it to about 700-800ppm most likely. Pic is from this morning. No clue if they’re going to stretch anytime soon. So squat and bushy!!!
 

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Richard Drysift

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It’s entirely possible to overdo it but this recipe looks ok to me. Ppms are mostly irrelevant because whatever is in your tea will not be absorbed directly; every thing must be consumed by the micro herd first in order to be available to the plants root system. Even then the mycorrhizae fungi attached to the root system only takes what the plants need through cation exchange. Ph of the tea is similarly irrelevant as it is the mix itself that is balanced in conjunction with microbial activity. They do all the work.
That being said; it could be better to simply put these amendments into the mix directly as opposed to brewing in an aact. While it is a slightly faster breakdown of NPK, etc when provided in a soluble form like this which sort of kick starts the decomposition process that may not be even what is needed. I try to keep my tea recipes super simple: 3-4 ingredients. Cannot beat the simplicity of your standard ewc, molasses, and kelp tea: has everything growing plants need and nothing else. I’ve never brewed neem seed meal in a tea nor humid acid but use both amendments directly when recycling the soil for another run. It’s up to you really how you provide npk but I think it’s better to throw it all in there and let the plants take what they need instead of trying to force them to take what’s in your tea just because you want them to have it. They will find it in their own as long as you keep the mix highly active. This is the main reason for giving teas in the first place after all.
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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there is a big shift coming imo... compost teas are trying to breed good microbes... there are very limited ways to get actual information about what bacteria you are breeding, and if they are beneficial. I have been seeing a ton of things now that are all about compost extracts as opposed to teas. Also the move towards a more fungal dominated tea AND soil or rather, maybe a more balanced fungal/microbial relationship. I personally have taken this info to heart and no longer brew teas at all.
 

Hollatchaboy

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there is a big shift coming imo... compost teas are trying to breed good microbes... there are very limited ways to get actual information about what bacteria you are breeding, and if they are beneficial. I have been seeing a ton of things now that are all about compost extracts as opposed to teas. Also the move towards a more fungal dominated tea AND soil or rather, maybe a more balanced fungal/microbial relationship. I personally have taken this info to heart and no longer brew teas at all.
Did you not ever see a difference after using aact?
 

meangreengrowinmachine

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Did you not ever see a difference after using aact?
honestly no. I guess there could be a lot of other factors... at least I thought it was that but then I saw so many things about how it is actually detrimental because you have no idea what bacteria you are actually breeding in there. check it out there are a ton of large scale organic guys that are on board.
 

Hollatchaboy

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honestly no. I guess there could be a lot of other factors... at least I thought it was that but then I saw so many things about how it is actually detrimental because you have no idea what bacteria you are actually breeding in there. check it out there are a ton of large scale organic guys that are on board.
I don't know if I'm ready for that. I have seen a difference after using aact. I believe what my eyes tell me more than what somebody else tells me. Now I'm not saying it's not true, but for me, it's worked, and I'm not about to fix what's not broken. :bigjoint:
 

soliderri

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Hi guys im tryng to do my first aact I'm using only bio component and i would know if it is good to add mykos or not ? I bought top crop mykos but i was thinkin to use it before than compost tea and not all mixed together what's better ?
 
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