Can cops search you're trunk for a routine stop??

Queen2Green

Queen2Green

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Just be polite and respectful and say no. If you have enough money, and/or can mount a good enough defense, you can damn near get away with anything as long as you don't give your rights away. Seriously. It's easy enough to do these days anyways without looking guilty. The current distrust level of the police is sky high!
 
Greens2000

Greens2000

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MICHI-CAN said:
Personal experience and discussing this with two sister's ex- boyfriends, County Sheriff and City Cop. They cannot enter your trunk without your permission as it is a locked secure private property. Unless they can claim probable cause. Car smells like weed, cologne, air freshener, red eyes, chewing gum, nervousness, sunglasses, evasiveness and the list goes on. Do none of the above and commit no arrestable moving offenses. Then the trunk is off limits here. Be polite, respectful and accept whatever civil infraction you are guilty of and enjoy the trouble you didn't get in.
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This is exactly what I do.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Queen2Green said:
Just be polite and respectful and say no. If you have enough money, and/or can mount a good enough defense, you can damn near get away with anything as long as you don't give your rights away. Seriously. It's easy enough to do these days anyways without looking guilty. The current distrust level of the police is sky high!
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Nice subtle assault on the social fabric there. I do wonder what your stake in this is.
 
Queen2Green

Queen2Green

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cannabineer said:
Nice subtle assault on the social fabric there. I do wonder what your stake in this is.
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I have no stake in this. I commented earlier and forgot. I came back and read. I noticed no one answered his question, so I answered. I know the law well, I used to work for a criminal defense lawyer. I thought I would be helpful, my bad.

Edit: It wasn't a subtle assult. It's just the truth about the current state of affairs. There is no reason to fear saying no, in no way will you look guilty. Whereas in the past, saying no was measured as a sign of guilt. These days, many are saying "no" to the police. That is all I meant.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Queen2Green said:
I have no stake in this. I commented earlier and forgot. I came back and read. I noticed no one answered his question, so I answered. I know the law well, I used to work for a criminal defense lawyer. I thought I would be helpful, my bad.

Edit: It wasn't a subtle assult. It's just the truth about the current state of affairs. There is no reason to fear saying no, in no way will you look guilty. Whereas in the past, saying no was measured as a sign of guilt. These days, many are saying "no" to the police. That is all I meant.
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That could well be.
I am still curious about how one might reduce the distrust level of and toward police. The average citizen’s attitude toward the police is a factor. That is where I perhaps erroneously saw you placing the crowbar.
 
Queen2Green

Queen2Green

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cannabineer said:
That could well be.
I am still curious about how one might reduce the distrust level of and toward police. The average citizen’s attitude toward the police is a factor. That is where I perhaps erroneously saw you placing the crowbar.
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It's all good.. I think you took it the opposite way of what I meant. I am implying that in the current state of affairs, many people distrust the police. The police are aware of this. So, when you say no, they don't think much of it. Whereas in the past, if you say no to their request to search, the police automatically assume you are guilty of something. Not to say they don't still, but less likely to assume guilt. They know the general public is sick of their shit. I'm 40 and that much know from both personal and work experience.

I'm not sure one can reduce the distrust level of and toward police right now. There's going to have to be a lot of change first. Starting with getting a terrorist out of our highest office.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Queen2Green said:
It's all good.. I think you took it the opposite way of what I meant. I am implying that in the current state of affairs, many people distrust the police. The police are aware of this. So, when you say no, they don't think much of it. Whereas in the past, if you say no to their request to search, the police automatically assume you are guilty of something. Not to say they don't still, but less likely to assume guilt. They know the general public is sick of their shit. I'm 40 and that much know from both personal and work experience.

I'm not sure one can reduce the distrust level of and toward police right now. There's going to have to be a lot of change first. Starting with getting a terrorist out of our highest office.
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Sorry to hang my assumption on you. I’m gonna switch from politics to :joint:
 
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realtomatoes

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Meast21 said:
In NY or any other state?
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I was a cop. No, not in the USA, they can't. However, they are legally permitted to lie to you. Yes, they can lie to you but you can't lie to them. Just say no and tell them you know your rights under the fourth amendment. They will try to bully you. Don't let them. Immediately tell them you need to see a search warrant before you allow them to search your personal property. Now, if they see some illegal paraphernalia in the vehicle or anything else illegal they now have the right to search the vehicle. If they arrest you for anything else like drunk driving they can "inventory" the contents of the vehicle when it is towed.

The best thing to do is never transport anything illegal in your vehicle. Wrap it up good and FedEx it even if it's just across town. Never use the US Mail for this and always send it from a vacant neighbors house under a different name. You can watch online to see when it will be picked up.

Never tell any law enforcement officer anything other than your name and address. Anything else they ask should go through your lawyer. If you end up with a public defender you have the right to ask for a different lawyer if you feel they are not doing their job, which will be most of the time. Prosecutors win 99.9% of cases when a public defender is involved.
 
Greens2000

Greens2000

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realtomatoes said:
I was a cop. No, not in the USA, they can't. However, they are legally permitted to lie to you. Yes, they can lie to you but you can't lie to them. Just say no and tell them you know your rights under the fourth amendment. They will try to bully you. Don't let them. Immediately tell them you need to see a search warrant before you allow them to search your personal property. Now, if they see some illegal paraphernalia in the vehicle or anything else illegal they now have the right to search the vehicle. If they arrest you for anything else like drunk driving they can "inventory" the contents of the vehicle when it is towed.

The best thing to do is never transport anything illegal in your vehicle. Wrap it up good and FedEx it even if it's just across town. Never use the US Mail for this and always send it from a vacant neighbors house under a different name. You can watch online to see when it will be picked up.

Never tell any law enforcement officer anything other than your name and address. Anything else they ask should go through your lawyer. If you end up with a public defender you have the right to ask for a different lawyer if you feel they are not doing their job, which will be most of the time. Prosecutors win 99.9% of cases when a public defender is involved.
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You was a cop?? Good for you. Thanks. Unfortunately when you tell the police officers they can’t search or you know your rights or any of that....they use it as pc. Talking about weed is one thing but the law is something totally different... & an individual officer is different again. ***Always be smart & diffuse any situation that you can’t remove yourself from when dealing with law enforcement***
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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realtomatoes said:
I was a cop. No, not in the USA, they can't. However, they are legally permitted to lie to you. Yes, they can lie to you but you can't lie to them. Just say no and tell them you know your rights under the fourth amendment. They will try to bully you. Don't let them. Immediately tell them you need to see a search warrant before you allow them to search your personal property. Now, if they see some illegal paraphernalia in the vehicle or anything else illegal they now have the right to search the vehicle. If they arrest you for anything else like drunk driving they can "inventory" the contents of the vehicle when it is towed.

The best thing to do is never transport anything illegal in your vehicle. Wrap it up good and FedEx it even if it's just across town. Never use the US Mail for this and always send it from a vacant neighbors house under a different name. You can watch online to see when it will be picked up.

Never tell any law enforcement officer anything other than your name and address. Anything else they ask should go through your lawyer. If you end up with a public defender you have the right to ask for a different lawyer if you feel they are not doing their job, which will be most of the time. Prosecutors win 99.9% of cases when a public defender is involved.
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