Can Soil Grown Smoke As Clean As Coco?

bk78

bk78

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VeganMusic said:
Modern Cannabis genetics are perpetually carbon deficient (hollow stems) due to breeding for energy intense hydrocarbons coupled with poor growing practice. You see organic guys feeding barley grain in flower which has much more nitrogen than carbon, for example.

Living soil will pull all sorts of carbon from the soil that doesn't get metabolized into weed flavors. With liquids, you can chelate calcium etc with fumaric acid and get fruit flavor into the plant instead of compost flavor.


Soil growers will also burst microbes and release excess ions into the plant. AKA hydroponics. I've done experiments feeding nutrient-specific decompositions to mutant plants with no aroma metabolism and low brix/acid levels. Composted limestone stands out. It made the substrate smell like 'ions'. If you know you know. Some, but not all of the plants had that metallic minerally, cold crisp open window morning air, ion generator, static electricity smell in the resin. It was like smoking the content of an excavator bucket. In theory organic cannabis should be of such high quality that these "terroirs" should never go noticed, but they are their. Organic acid-chelated liquid ferts are cleaner.

If anyone wants to see for themselves, top dress an insane amount of bone meal to some dank mid flower. It changes the smell, for the worst, as the plant takes up carbon from the bone. If a plant will eat its own innards seeking carbon during bloom, it will eat whatever carbon it can grab from the soil.
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weedstoner420

weedstoner420

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VeganMusic said:
Modern Cannabis genetics are perpetually carbon deficient (hollow stems) due to breeding for energy intense hydrocarbons coupled with poor growing practice. You see organic guys feeding barley grain in flower which has much more nitrogen than carbon, for example.

Living soil will pull all sorts of carbon from the soil that doesn't get metabolized into weed flavors. With liquids, you can chelate calcium etc with fumaric acid and get fruit flavor into the plant instead of compost flavor.


Soil growers will also burst microbes and release excess ions into the plant. AKA hydroponics. I've done experiments feeding nutrient-specific decompositions to mutant plants with no aroma metabolism and low brix/acid levels. Composted limestone stands out. It made the substrate smell like 'ions'. If you know you know. Some, but not all of the plants had that metallic minerally, cold crisp open window morning air, ion generator, static electricity smell in the resin. It was like smoking the content of an excavator bucket. In theory organic cannabis should be of such high quality that these "terroirs" should never go noticed, but they are their. Organic acid-chelated liquid ferts are cleaner.

If anyone wants to see for themselves, top dress an insane amount of bone meal to some dank mid flower. It changes the smell, for the worst, as the plant takes up carbon from the bone. If a plant will eat its own innards seeking carbon during bloom, it will eat whatever carbon it can grab from the soil.
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I thought plants got carbon from CO2 gas...they absorb CO2 and excrete oxygen, where does the carbon go?
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

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Only grown in coco once and it was my first grow. Soil there after.

I haven’t ran a clone in different media (only way to know what’s best) but the coco coir still produced tasty buds ( a bit over fed but my fault) and was so smelly it smelt like shit. A thick warm blanket of shitty air was coming out the tent lol

My soil stuff smokes better but that’s purely because I’m better at growing than when I started. I’d like to try coco again as the grow rates are impressive.

But I doubt one smokes smoother than the other. I’ve had soil buds taste awful.

It’s all down to the grower.

It would be nice to see a capable coco/soil grower who would run a clone in each media. But that seems hard to find ironically
 
Scuzzman

Scuzzman

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absolute crap bro science once gain, so long as you get stoned off a joint fantastic, if you grow for taste what a waste of time.
 
conor c

conor c

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medidedicated said:
I have to keep explaining why coco is hydro time to time. Growers in coco here kept asking me why I say hydro coco in my first few posts. I simply meant, some people mix coco with other stuff or treat it like soil so I was just clarifying that it is like sitting in water all day but with a perfect inert filler. It is for sure hydro IMO. So agreed. Might be tasting a happier plant.
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Im aware its hydro id say did right and organic tends to turn out better than other hydro methods
Johnny Lawrence said:
Why would coco produce a "tastier" plant than any other hydro substrate?
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Idk as i said its just been my experience that organically grown coco stuff tends to be better in smell and flavour than say stuff grown in wilma nft or dutch bubbler systems i prefer soil over hydro for simplicity myself but each to there own ig and i do have some mates who big into hydro just never caught the bug myself
 
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