Can someone identify the problem? Pic included
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Aussieaceae
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Mtt582,
What are they growing in?
Have you been feeding them? If so how much, and how often?
Ph??
What are they growing in?
Have you been feeding them? If so how much, and how often?
Ph??
Mtt582
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They are in FFOF. I’ve been watering them but not feeding yet because they are so young. The water I’m using is ph7.
Beachwalker
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No nutes yet. PH 6.5 in ffof for best results, also make sure you've got enough drainage holes and be careful not to over water, good luck
Mtt582
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Yea I just realized two day ago that I was watering too much but it doesn’t look like any over watering I’ve seen online. I’m starting to lean toward light burn the more I look at them and do research.
Aussieaceae
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I agree, no nutes yet, ffof seems to be pretty hot right out the bag.
There was a regular ffof user, telling me just the other day, that they have to add a small amount of lime. You may want to consider this when you up pot. Apparently the mixes ph can vary greatly, and is often too low.
I'd stick to the plain water, and don't water too often. It looks fairly damp there.
If it's a rich soil, and wet all the time, seedings will really suffer.
Good luck.
There was a regular ffof user, telling me just the other day, that they have to add a small amount of lime. You may want to consider this when you up pot. Apparently the mixes ph can vary greatly, and is often too low.
I'd stick to the plain water, and don't water too often. It looks fairly damp there.
If it's a rich soil, and wet all the time, seedings will really suffer.
Good luck.
Mtt582
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Yup spot on I've been looking into lime. I was thinking about watering the soil in the bigger pot for about a week before I pot up to take some of the sting out of the soil if that makes any sense.
Aussieaceae
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I hear you,
Unless you're cooking the soil for several weeks, i think watering the soil could be counter productive.
I'd check the ph of the soil in the bag, by making a slurry, or using a probe.
If you have plenty of aeration, and drainage when you up pot, the rich soil should be fine. 30 - 40% perlite or so.
Unless you're cooking the soil for several weeks, i think watering the soil could be counter productive.
I'd check the ph of the soil in the bag, by making a slurry, or using a probe.
If you have plenty of aeration, and drainage when you up pot, the rich soil should be fine. 30 - 40% perlite or so.
john wishmyer
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too high of a ph range for how young they are, start them at 6.3-6.8 then as they mature they seem be be able to put up with a ph flux.
Mtt582
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Ah is I going to be awhile before they can handle 7? Or is it worth getting some ph down till they can deal
Chip Green
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Do nothing. Nothing at all. The pH of FFOF out of the bag is far more likely to be too low, than too high, from my experience with ALL FF soils. I measure every bag with a Bluelab soil probe, and have yet to find a reading above 6.3....
Seedlings require far, FAR, less water than most growers are willing to accept...
Wet soil in general is detrimental to seedling root development.
Seedlings require far, FAR, less water than most growers are willing to accept...
Wet soil in general is detrimental to seedling root development.
Chip Green
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That FF soil user was me, and yes, I amend lime before use of ALL Foxfarms soils....
Chip Green
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To continue to beat this dead horse further, it should be declared that FF soils are notoriously inconsistent. Bags from one pallet to the next can be dramatically different based on age, storage environment, and even geographical location!
Bernie420
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Yeah it sounds like you want the plant to be perfect right now, you have a few deficiencies going on, but their young and your going to have that. They are young with hardly any roots so feeding it at a light ppm 150-200ppm of veg nutes would be a good thing once or twice a week.
Dont over water just 50-60 ml right now is enough / every few days
Before I say it isnt light burn what light do you have and how close.
Get the ph down water in at 6.5. Get some / a microbe product and use that at a low dose once a week. A little kelp once a week in veg wouldnt hurt.
Mtt582
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So do you still use them if did you switch soil?
Mtt582
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I’m using 3 fluence ray 22s they were about 24” away and I dropped my plants down to 30” last night
Bernie420
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not light burn but smart to raise the lights up. Do the lite feeding a couple of times, see what happens. get some microbes.
Mtt582
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Ok I’ll give it a shot tonight.
Beachwalker
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..now do you see it?
.. stop overwatering, let it dry out, also start to adjust your pH properly for best results, good luck
Mtt582
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.. stop overwatering, let it dry out, also start to adjust your pH properly for best results, good luck[/QUOTE]
how long will they take to recover on average? Two of the ones that wilted a little I really want to keep but I need to choose soon
.. stop overwatering, let it dry out, also start to adjust your pH properly for best results, good luck[/QUOTE]
how long will they take to recover on average? Two of the ones that wilted a little I really want to keep but I need to choose soon
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