can someone tell me if these are ready to crop??

hyroot

hyroot

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THCBrain said:
I got the me neither bit but then after that wtf?
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Those are methods of natural organic growing.

No till - never till the soil and reuse the soil over and over adding composting worms and homemade castings to the pot. Using various teas. Ferments, seed sprouts, etc. .

Probiotic - using everyday things like oats, milk, rice wash, to create bacteria, fungi and enzymes to add to the soil to feed the plant instead of using nutrients.

Knf - korean natural farming tech similar to the 2 above but using and creating bacteria and fungi with what's naturally available around you. For example finding a patch of plants that all have pm. But one in the center doesn't. Then take that cultivar and make a ferment tea with it. Adding beneficial bacteria and fungi from that plant that help that plant survive and be resilient in its environment.


I don't use bottled nutes at all. So there's never ever any salt accumulation in my soil. So technically there's nothing to flush. My soil is amended and I use sub irrigated planters. My plants do get plain water via bottom roots. Once a week they get top fed a corn seed sprout tea.
 
RM3

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hyroot said:
Those are methods of natural organic growing.

No till - never till the soil and reuse the soil over and over adding composting worms and homemade castings to the pot. Using various teas. Ferments, seed sprouts, etc. .

Probiotic - using everyday things like oats, milk, rice wash, to xrwat bacteria, fungi and enzymes to add to the soil to feed the plant instead of using nutrients.

Knf - korean natural farming tech similar to the 2 above but using and creating bacteria and fungi with what's naturally available around you.


I don't use bottled nutes at all. So there's never ever any salt accumulation in my soil. So technically there's nothing to flush. My soil is amended and I use sub irrigated planters. My plants do get plain water via bottom roots. Once a week they get top fed a corn seed sprout tea.
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Very cool but there is nothing to flush with chems either, if used properly
 
hyroot

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RM3 said:
Very cool but there is nothing to flush with chems either, if used properly
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Yes there is salts. Chemicals added to soil and / or root zones create salt build up. That's why most farms have to crop burn their soil to remove salt. The run off pollutes ground water and nearby lakes and rivers. Increasing salinity in those waters. Those farms can't afford the down time to phytoremediate the soil using dynamic accumulators instead.
 
Afgan King

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I understand you saying that look up rm3 and his boiling water techniques it really does nothing else besides starve the plant of nutes and oxygen and forces sugars out of the plant. Believe me I was skeptical too rm3 has whole blogs on it been doing it for like 20 years

hyroot said:
This is the dumbest trolling shit I've ever heard. Boiling water will kill the plant.

All flushing does is rid the root zone and soil of salts. Not nutrients. If using synthetics or chemicals you definitely want to flush out those salts. Molasses is good for this because it's a chelating agent and will help remove and break down matter. Plus the sodium sulfate in in molasses neutralizes chems that cause salt build up and also nuetralizes chlorine and chloramine.
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hyroot

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Afgan King said:
I understand you saying that look up rm3 and his boiling water techniques it really does nothing else besides starve the plant of nutes and oxygen and forces sugars out of the plant. Believe me I was skeptical too rm3 has whole blogs on it been doing it for like 20 years
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Why would you ever want to force sugars out of a plant. The amount of sugars and minerals are the brix levels of the plant. The higher the brix levels the higher the terpene profile. Which means a more profound and more pungent smell and taste or flavor.

Plants need dissolved oxygen to live and survive. Capillary action in the root zone Otherwise they will die. Partly why boiling water kills plants. The other part is the high temps.

Starving nutrients from the plant will causes deficiencies.

You don't want to cause anything of the things you said.
 
RM3

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hyroot said:
Why would you ever want to force sugars out of a plant. The amount of sugars and minerals are the brix levels of the plant. brix levels. The higher the brix levels the higher the terpene profile. Which means a more profound and more pungent smell and taste.

Plants need dissolved oxygen to live and survive. Otherwise they will die.

Starving nutrients from the plant will causes deficiencies.

You don't want to cause anything of the things you said.
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What it actually does is cut off the plants supply of O2 and causes the plant to ferment sugars in order to survive. ALL plants are programed to do this, it is how they survive floods. So basically the plant is self curing while dying which causes a fast fade. It DOES NOT increase THC or resin or potency it simply speeds up the cure
 
Afgan King

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hyroot said:
Why would you ever want to force sugars out of a plant. The amount of sugars and minerals are the brix levels of the plant. The higher the brix levels the higher the terpene profile. Which means a more profound and more pungent smell and taste or flavor.

Plants need dissolved oxygen to live and survive. Capillary action in the root zone Otherwise they will die.

Starving nutrients from the plant will causes deficiencies.

You don't want to cause anything of the things you said.
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He's talking of doing it in the last week of growing instead of a flush. Same concept really flush starves the plants of nutrients causing their fade and for them to give one last hoorah before they die. Boiling the water will starve them and not allow anything besides the nutrients that have already been taken up to be used causing almost a better flush due to no worry of plants absorbing remaining nutrients left in soil/Coco..... correct me if I'm wrong @RM3 but that's what I picked up from it right?
 
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hyroot said:
Why would you ever want to force sugars out of a plant. The amount of sugars and minerals are the brix levels of the plant. The higher the brix levels the higher the terpene profile. Which means a more profound and more pungent smell and taste or flavor.

Plants need dissolved oxygen to live and survive. Capillary action in the root zone Otherwise they will die. Partly why boiling water kills plants. The other part is the high temps.

Starving nutrients from the plant will causes deficiencies.

You don't want to cause anything of the things you said.
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RM3

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Afgan King said:
He's talking of doing it in the last week of growing instead of a flush. Same concept really flush starves the plants of nutrients causing their fade and for them to give one last hoorah before they die. Boiling the water will starve them and not allow anything besides the nutrients that have already been taken up to be used causing almost a better flush due to no worry of plants absorbing remaining nutrients left in soil/Coco..... correct me if I'm wrong @RM3 but that's what I picked up from it right?
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just posted what it does & and does not do ^^^
 
Sassafras¥

Sassafras¥

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It does work.. if it's at the end of the cycle anyways it won't matter. I've tried it a few times, and it 4 real does work..
hyroot said:
This is the dumbest trolling shit I've ever heard. Boiling water will kill the plant.

All flushing does is rid the root zone and soil of salts. Not nutrients. If using synthetics or chemicals you definitely want to flush out those salts. Molasses is good for this because it's a chelating agent and will help remove and break down matter. Plus the sodium sulfate in in molasses neutralizes chems that cause salt build up and also nuetralizes chlorine and chloramine.
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Blazeitup does this plant kinda look like your Gsc a friend gave me some beans and wasnt sure if his word is good on the beans he said they were platinum gsc and I was on this thread and seen ur gsc and it kinda resembles it BTW they look nice
 

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