Can someone tell me why not to use General Organics....

johnyutah

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@ over the man. Thank you for your post. Excellent. I wish I didn't live in an apartment/loft. I have been looking for apiece of land and soon enough I'll be a country boy again, but for now I have to work with what I have. The GO line is my choice for this next grow, but I will continue to research because rise's veganics is really what want to do... My last grow with GO produce tasty stuff but this grow will be much better... You know what I am starting thread now......
 

overTHEman

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johnyutah,

if you start a journal, will you post the link here?

Also, there is a user on this forum (and another site) who knows his organics - "wetdog". He has done a couple write-ups on the web that have been extremely helpful in understanding the fundamentals of organic gardening.

Apartment life is tough for those of us from the country, especially with organics. Have you looked into a small DIY vermicomposter? Kitchen scraps + worms + shredded newspaper will make great earthworm compost in a small space every few weeks.

Again, post a link to your journal - I can't speak for everyone but we would love to see your grow.
 

Total Head

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bio bizz looks nice but i think i am gonna just use the GO with 2-1 ratio of fox farm ocean forest - light warrior... and happy frog makes a tomato loving food... it has multiple kinds of "meals" >bone, fish, etc... I think i am going to mix a little of that into my soil. I am also very interested in the general hydroponics subculture M and B which i would like to use in my grow. However, it is easier for me to just order online that to go to my local store, and my local store has a mark up that has almost made me boycott the fucking asshole, but i am starting my new grow today and in 20 days i am going to flip to 12-12... in my last journal i waited till day 24 to flip and since im growing in a dr60 they got a little too big. so i am FIM'n them before the first set of 7 show ( i have found that with the strain i ggrow this fim spot gives 6 awesome colas) giving me apox ten days to train my canopy. and then ....and then..... nuggets... so hopefullly i cant get all the stuff i need before they just grow out of control haha. its not worth it to wait, they are weeds and they grow in dirt so no matter what they are gonna grow, i just wanna see what the difference is when i add more stuff cuz if i can grow better/have better smoke thats all i want to do.
i'm pretty new to organics and what i do is considered more "poser organics" than the real deal, but i know how little info there is around here on the happy frog line of dry organic ferts (aka peace of mind, same exact product/company just in a box instead of a bag). i will say this, though. my tomatoes this summer were ridiculously huge and delicious, and well resistant to disease, and all i used all year was the fox farm all purpose 5-5-5 (i didn't use the tomato food because i wanted an even npk)

i was so impressed that i decided to grow pot with it and made up my own soil mix with the 5-5-5 premixed in as the primary nutrition source. once the plants were well established i planted into my mix and i vegged for 6 weeks and am now almost 3 weeks into flower without so much as a single yellow leaf tip. fed only water the ENTIRE TIME. over 2 months. my base soil is 60% gardner's gold and 40% worm castings with a small amount of perlite thrown in. the verdict is still out until i harvest of course but i am so very impressed with the fert so far.

based on my experience you will more than likely love the tomato variety. i'm in the same boat as you, in an apartment, which is what lead me down this path in the first place. at last calculation i figured out that i could fill around 40 3 gallon pots with my mix for just under 80 bucks! i'm sure i'll have to top dress soon but it's still the easiest cheapest way i've come up with. as cheap as dyna gro is this organic deal has it beat, and is WAY better for a lazy shit like myself. once i plant 95% of the work is done, and there's none of this "when's the last time i fed" stuff to keep track of.
 

johnyutah

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this sounds really good and i plan to def try to go with the ammended soil route, but this time i am going to ive GO one last run.. i just started a new thread, and hpoefully will have success with GO... after reading more and more about theGO line and calling the rep about 10 different times i have come to the conclusion that, if it does what they say it does, GO is fucking awesome. i just dont want any yellow untill later in flowering and then i just want my plants to totally turn when i start flushing. making a super soil really does sound so much easier so next time... apporx mid march i will give it a go...
 

IVIars

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With vegan or Organics in general I've read it's debatable whether a flush really does anything at the end anyway guano residues are very hard to leach out of a soil and with the way the soil-food-nutrient web works the flush would just be releasing more nutes into your medium via slow release N in blood meal and whatnot. As for entirely vegan it's all plant based nutrients so their is no residues to flush out. A compost tea is water + compost + food bubbled with an airstone to release the bacteria and Protozoa trapped inside cysts within the compost. It's a good supercharge for your soil and will aid in the breakdown and hopefully total consumption of all the food you put in your containers as well as giving the myco lots to eat. Which will in turn give your plants the food they need. Brewing a tea just separates the bacteria and Protozoa from the compost and starts the multiplication process. A simple tea recipe is here
Easy tea

1 gallon = 16 cups = 256 tablespoons

2.38% by volume compost or vermicompost (EWC) per gallon = .38 cups or around half a cup max or about 2 cups in 5 gallons max.

0.5 to 0.75% molasses by volume per gallon = 1.28 to 1.92 tablespoons per gallon. 0.75% is the maximum I use. It is a good bacterial and fungal food.

0.063% fish hydrolysate by volume per gallon = 0.16 tablespoon = 0.479 teaspoons or half a teaspoon

0.25% (max) kelpmeal by volume per gallon = 0.64 tablespoon or half a tablespoon

Dilute to 20:1
Apply as a soil drench and foliar spray

My personal advice and method will be to start with subcools supersoil and watch how your plants react to his mix done the way he says. If you lack in anything you can adjust your amendments midcyle or use a bottled nutes to make up for any defs. When you learn what your strain likes you'll be able to adjust your soil mix accordingly and work from there.

Big ups to Matt Rize which is where 90% of my Veganic knowledge has come from you should check his thread out it's a long read but lots of great info peace for now and sorry bout the long ass post
nice post, look into water ph levels to unlock P and K
 
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