can sum1 help with canna coco....

Chrissa

Chrissa

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If u want to eventually get 2g per watt or more listen to wat canna has tried to tell u , if u wanna start buying other mediums to mix with the coco and actually complicating it then do that but ur never gunna see the optimal results by using the medium improperly ,, that watering with pure water thing is just crazy ya ur plants will obvs stay alive but it's the buffer inside the coco that's being washed away,,, basically if ur doing this u miles we'll buy garbage coco and garbage nutes instead of wasting ur money on professional nutrients lines that ur not even going to use properly if u wanna water with plain water go to organics those guys will show u how it's done , you need a ph pen and an e.c meter to use coco properly and get optimal results. But hey don't listen to me I only get 18 ounces per plant with 21 day veg
 
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8/10 said:
I use "diatomaceous earth", which you can find in some types of kitty litter. All the water I pour in stays in the bucket, there are no holes in my buckets.
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There is a reason u need runoff dude. Why are people aloud to come on here and giv this absolutely flabbergasting techniques that are so improper and will never get u huge yields and excellent quality ,, this kind of stuff right here are why there are so many conflicting results ,, this actually inrages me this is why I'm writing a journal on how to use coco proper peace
 
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Chrissa

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tekdc911 said:
this is just how i treat my coco
week 1-3 seedling starting out light and slowly increasing after the first week
3-6 veg(or two weeks into flower which ever come first ) even after flower starts i still run the veg and then start to slowly transition from veg to bloom around week 6 ... but i am like you and like the heavier medications and i strongly believe that very few auto's are actually done at 8 weeks since all i have allowed to run longer all seem to benefit from it .. figured id add i havent ran that nutrient line but in the end nutes are nutes .... its just being able to read your plant correctly and having what in needs in place at the proper times that really matters ..... so i guess what im getting at is there is no real schedule .... keep micros available from the start ..... slowly work up from 1/4 strength during veg until you get a slight tip burn and then slowly take away the veg and add bloom in its place .... if you do burn it give it a flush add the micros back and let it ride for a day or so on just water and then get back to it ..... keeping notes helped me alot ....... and dont forget to flush the coco before you start even if its " prewashed "
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This is correct except for the last part do not wash through canna coco u are ruining the medium cannas coco is not harvested near salt water, canna treats there coco with a special buffer ,, look dude don't give false information ur adding to the problem if u pre wash ur canna coco hope u like wasting money cuz that's what your doing you miles we'llbe using garbage as a medium
 
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Chrissa said:
This is correct except for the last part do not wash through canna coco u are ruining the medium cannas coco is not harvested near salt water, canna treats there coco with a special buffer ,, look dude don't give false information ur adding to the problem if u pre wash ur canna coco hope u like wasting money cuz that's what your doing you miles we'llbe using garbage as a medium
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he said he wasnt using canna coir

so i hope you like eating crow since you missed the part where he said he will be using something else


and have a merry fucking xmas bongsmilie false information pfft ......... how about you step off of canna's dick for long enough to realize that the same blend can be made for half the price at almost any hardware store and some plain ass washed coco
 
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tekdc911

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the buffer is lime ...... its not some secret snake juice
its a soil less blend its not pure coco ..... its also precharged to some extent ....... but what do i know i dont even grow
 
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Chrissa

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Coco buffer , coco fibres hold potassium this needs to be removed by adding calcium and magnesium buffer, if this does not happen the fiber will draw calcium and magnesium out of the nutrient solution so that it is no longer available to the plant , although the coco is buffered it will always hold some calcium and magnesium from the nutrient solution and thereby release potassium, the coco substrate uses the potassium that is real eased for the generative phase as well since the canna coco absorbed enough water and doesn't need to be watered as much as other fivers there is plenty of time to make this exchange
 
Chrissa

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tekdc911 said:
he said he wasnt using canna coir

so i hope you like eating crow since you missed the part where he said he will be using something else


and have a merry fucking xmas bongsmilie false information pfft ......... how about you step off of canna's dick for long enough to realize that the same blend can be made for half the price at almost any hardware store and some plain ass washed coco
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Dude relax I'm trying to speak science not crap I know he wasn't using canna coco but u had said to pre wash even if the company pre washes this is not true for canna, and I'm not on anyone's dick I've took the time to do side by sides as I've said and I've took the time to research and it's not the same blend
 
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Chrissa said:
Coco buffer , coco fibres hold potassium this needs to be removed by adding calcium and magnesium buffer, if this does not happen the fiber will draw calcium and magnesium out of the nutrient solution so that it is no longer available to the plant , although the coco is buffered it will always hold some calcium and magnesium from the nutrient solution and thereby release potassium, the coco substrate uses the potassium that is real eased for the generative phase as well since the canna coco absorbed enough water and doesn't need to be watered as much as other fivers there is plenty of time to make this exchange
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so hold up ...... only canna coco does that ...... WOW !!!!! but didnt you just explain the traits of ALL coco not just canna ...... do you work for canna ???? or just a fan boy ???? if organic material is added then lime is used ..... since it is no longer coco but a soil less blend



..... but wait isnt a calcium and magnesium buffer also known as garden lime ???? or just plain lime >.< glad you did your research you have a nice day now
 
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Chrissa

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That's correct only if organic material is added no I don't work for canna, and no not only canna coco does that's was saying this because earlier in the thread kiss was mentioned if ur trying to keep it stupid simple why wud u wanna start trying to properly buffer the coco why not buy pre buffered coco doesn't this defeat the purpose
 
tekdc911

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a bag that fills up 3 pots or a brick for twice the price same shipping basically that fills up a wheel barrow .... bag of lime is like 4 bucks and you could use a bit of peat for the organic material ...... hmm i wonder if thats why canna holds water better then " normal " coir
 
Chrissa

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Dude like I said I don't pay shipping and I rather have quality ,, 7.99 is an excellent price best I've found and I am a huge fan because I've seen better results since switching to canna coco
 
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