ended up trimming. was a bitch to trim and i half assed it next time imma wet trim them and hang longer keeping the lids on the jars open so they dont mold up. they ain't super wet but still kinda wet. only reason i keeping um the jar is because i feel like by tomorrow they should be dry enough to just close the lid and burp but yea next time just wet trim and hang longer. didnt see much mold only 2 spots both on the sugar leaves. seen a couple bugs. 1 spider which i removed 1. idk wtf this this was but looked like a snail was kinda hard and had a sell kinda big too looked like a baby snail. and i think 1 thrip running around on the buds.Mold - did you trim when harvested or you still planning on dry trim?
Leaving leaves on isnt the best idea and trim bud avoids mold better.
Try see if it smokes on Monday - expect it still to be fresh - leave it a week and it will smooth out
Can you cure anyway?
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danjac82
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I’m thinking the super low humidity affected my drying and potency a bit. Hung dry foot to 18” long branches and were real crisply and smashed in crisp and light feeling when I squeezed. Was able to smoke a bowl without torching it in 3 days hanging. This among other factors is cause for my bud being poor quality this run. I agree on the low humidity thing being a possible issue
Kingrow1
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Dude im shocked you are jarring already, be carefull with the advice you follow here - its not our advice
yea just REALLY impatient. on the bright side i learned from my mistakes so next harvest should be better. not going to be upset if smoke comes out bad might just smoke 1 or 2 bowls later and then make butter with the rest. at the end of the day i consider the advice but i either take it or do my own shit and learn either way. in this case i should of taken your advice XD and dry longer. if anything imma just lay um out to continue to dry but right now i just keep um in the jar see what happens.Dude im shocked you are jarring already, be carefull with the advice you follow here - its not our advice
Joint Monster
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Mate, I employ you to store some top grade, naturally cured at 62% for 6 months. Tell me it does not blow you mind in comparison to freshly dried and uncured bud.You dont actually need to cure or jar bud so no idea what your on about but i would like to point to other new growers the reason why the info is so hard to decipher.... ^^This guy and others alike^^
Like i need to cure or buy a jar for top grade smoke - again laughable
...2 Weeks of curing will make quite a big difference too!
But you are right, you do not actually Need to. It does greatly improve the overall smoking experience.
Drying slowing helps carry over the enzymatic process which in turn provide a cleaner, smooth, smoking bud while preserving the terpenes.
yea imma try smoke this in like a month then my next harvest imma dry better and cure same amount of time and then smoke a small nug then continue to let it age for a bit then see what happens. got to get hands on experience with what too look for when it comes to drying figured i heard a snap on the branch so it was okay but after starting to trim i was like fuck they not ready but just continued. its alright though got more grows ahead of me more learning and more weed so i aint mad
Kingrow1
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The fact you dont need to cure is the main point that beats down most trolls lame ass info.
Id suggest by biological testing that it is not the humidity of the air but the remaining moisture locked up in the bud that carries on the enzymatic processes and point out that what we call dried or cured actually still contains moisture.
Simple science gets mixed up here, cells cannot reabsorb moisture once they loose them and that dried and cured bud still has a small percentage of moisture for enzmatic process qnd humidity once again becomes meaningless troll bait.
I dont dismiss the importance of humidity for storage but most dont fractionate the science out and become humidiacs forever trolling the wrong side of the coin.
You bring up a good point
Kingrow1
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Poor quality bud crisps up and makes you think you need to jar when in reality it is what it is and was never going to dry or cure very well.
Plant cell structurec is like that, weak plants have weak cells that burst and crisp not slowly dry and release.
And back to enzymatic process and you see that shit bud is harsh
Aussieaceae
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danjac82,
I get low humidity sometimes where i am too. My opinion is humidity, especially while drying is the most important thing.
My trick to combat the low humidity is to hang the plants whole, with most of the leaves still attached. As the leaves dry, they hug the buds a little. Also because the branches are still attached to the main stem, the bud still draws a fair amount of moisture from the trunk. It's a much slower dry this way.
Just before the leaves start to go crisp, then i remove them. It's usually only 2 or 3 days from there, that i'm harvesting the buds and jarring / burping them.
If it was more humid, i'd remove many of the large leaves. But i'd still hang the plants whole.
In a nutshell, i don't believe curing cannabis is any different to drying a lot of foods. Dried fruits and nuts last for a long time right? But they retain juuust enough moisture to keep their structure and freshness. They're not completely dry inside.
We are trying to preserve our smoke. Not necessarily to improve it, but to retain as many of it's smells and flavour as we can.
I believe the most important step in the curing process is drying it nicely.
Anyway that's my 2cents. Congrats on your harvest.
PHOTON6
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Bwoy u guys goin in deep on this ,my curiosity was will my bud improve in its TASTE,THC.TEXTURE IM SURE it will change .but tokin freshly dried 7 day dried 50-63 humidty,60-70 temp,hung in a two large cardboxes ,oscilating air not direct on bud at hole in base outlet cut above opposite side,bin jarred f a week WILL IT better in taste,thc in amonth that wat was askin being it my first cure
Aussieaceae
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The flavour and smell will certainly improve. Especially if it's dried slowly. The fermentation process begins while you're drying it.
I have my doubts the potency improves. If it does i've never really noticed myself.
PHOTON6
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Yeah hoping so J monster, tokin on 7 day jarred bud now ,1st cure hoping it will improve some in the weeks to come
you got pics after the trim? just so i can see what my buds might look like lmfao i did such a bad fucking job at trimming
danjac82
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It should definitely get better in taste. I’ve noticed it gets a touch smoother after a week or so in jars. I’m assuming you jarred with a decent amount of moisture still. Continues to get smoother and loses more of the fresh harshness or extra bite it has after a few weeks...more of the good terps come through in the flavor. Anything after 3 weeks tastes and smells about as good as it’s going to. It tastes like that familiar good weed taste. It comes around. Burns better and despite different opinions, I believe potency is increased. Perceived potency is definitely increased. Smokin* some bud that was trash at a week from chop. 23 days in jars now and it’s actually nice indica smoke. It started to come around after a few weeks. I typically notice a slight increase in potency or a better high but never to this extent
yea i am planning to run it closer to around 2 weeks with my SC's. my blue widows in the jar smell earthy idk if that is because they are still wet or that is how they are supposed to smell. on leafy it says it has an earthy smell. kinda smelled like this when it was still growing but not as strong
Capn-Crunch
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If I dried for 2 weeks at 30% I'd have nothing but dust!1.To recap - dry for two weeks.
2.Once it stays that dry in a jar you can jar and store.
3.If in the jar it gets moist - ya you didnt dry properly - repeat drying steps.
far too easy but weed growers like to make everything 100 steps far too complex like there selling you stuff you dont think you need but there sure you do
Joint Monster
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So are you saying the humidity content of the bud during curing is of no value?The fact you dont need to cure is the main point that beats down most trolls lame ass info.
Id suggest by biological testing that it is not the humidity of the air but the remaining moisture locked up in the bud that carries on the enzymatic processes and point out that what we call dried or cured actually still contains moisture.
Simple science gets mixed up here, cells cannot reabsorb moisture once they loose them and that dried and cured bud still has a small percentage of moisture for enzmatic process qnd humidity once again becomes meaningless troll bait.
I dont dismiss the importance of humidity for storage but most dont fractionate the science out and become humidiacs forever trolling the wrong side of the coin.
You bring up a good point
As long as you are above 55% RH, is CBGA still not being converted to other compounds like THC, as well is chlorophyll still being broken down. It is said these activities are halted under that RH level.
A Boveda pack can remoisten over dried bud, but it can not help the destroyed terpenes and lack of chlorophyll break-down. So would humidity then be of value?
The only reason I mention that is, if I get store-bought-dried-uncured bud and attempt to cure it, it does increase in aroma and smoothness. However not nearly as much of an improvement as if I took bud that just finished drying and cured it at the correct RH at the correct time.
Joint Monster
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Good quality bud dried too quickly will also turn to dust.Poor quality bud crisps up and makes you think you need to jar when in reality it is what it is and was never going to dry or cure very well.
Plant cell structurec is like that, weak plants have weak cells that burst and crisp not slowly dry and release.
And back to enzymatic process and you see that shit bud is harsh
Then attempting to cure that product^ will not do much as there is no moisture content to aid in curing.
Kingrow1
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I just dried for three weeks as 30% humidity and have primo not dust.
If it is put in a grinder it grinds into a small particulate but if i squash it it stays whole just looks smaller.
Im calling bs and have given reason - how do you grind bud if it dosent loose most of its moisture then?