can you die from shrooms?

Cubensis are te safest drug on the table of harmfull drugs recently released.
As someone pointed out, headache tablets are far more likeley to kill you.

That being said, I believe you should grow your own, because contaminated mushrooms can carry other fungi and bacteria that can blind you, make you realy sick, or worse.

Sr. Verde said:

imagine how many balls that dude tripped...

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Its all good that dude probably had infinite lives played before his eyes before he died at least he died living many lives lol.

I feel like I worded that wierd hahah

I've been hearing that myth about tripping on mushrooms being some sort of poisoning since I was a teenager. I actually sort of believed it at first and thought about it frequently my first few times tripping on them.

sonar said:

I've been hearing that myth about tripping on mushrooms being some sort of poisoning since I was a teenager. I actually sort of believed it at first and thought about it frequently my first few times tripping on them.

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Saying something like that to someone could definitely contribute to a bad trip. It'll bring about paranoid thoughts and what not.

skiweeds said:

now im reading about psilocybin.

The toxicity of psilocybin is low; in rats, the oral LD[SIZE=-1]50[/SIZE] is 280 mg/kg, approximately one and a half times that of caffeine. When administered intravenously in rabbits, psilocybin's LD50 is approximately 12.5 mg/kg[53] (however rabbits are extremely intolerant to the effects of most psychoactive drugs). The lethal dose from psilocybin toxicity alone is unknown at recreational or medicinal levels, and has never been documented; a 2008 case report noted "Death from psilocybin intake alone is unknown at recreational or medicinal levels."[54] Psilocybin makes up roughly 1% of the weight of Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, and so nearly 1.7 kilograms of dried mushrooms, or 17 kilograms of fresh mushrooms, would be required for a 60 kg person to reach the 280 mg/kg LD50 rate of rats.

i dont get it what is the difference between psilocin and psilocybin?

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The mushrooms contain different ratios of various psychedelic tryptamines (depending on strain and such). Psilocybin/psilocin are but the typical primary constituents, and there is usually more psilocybin than psilocin; but your body turns psilocybin into psilocin. Therefore psilocybin is a 'prodrug' for psilocin (as heroin is a prodrug for morphine).

thanks all for the input. i repped some of you but ran out for the day. i will rep the rest of you when i get the chance.

Shrooms are the safest drug on the planet. Everyone should tripp on mushrooms. you cant eat too much, there not toxic at all, and they offer you a key to a bran new way on seeing and experiencing life. bad tripps can be very frighting but as with any mm trip you learn and take something new about yourself out of it, but like my good tripping buddy once told me while we were tripping balls he said "They don't just call it a trip for nothing".

Aminita Muscaria mushrooms are very poisonous and very psychedelic. The toxin that kills you is the same agent that gets you high. It grows widely across the N.Hemisphere and is responsible for many deaths every year from both misidentification by people looking for edible mushrooms and fools trying to get high from 'em. The toxin can vary wildly even in mushrooms from the same patch or area.

Aminita Muscaria has been used shamans for millenia,but they know how to deal with them,to an extent. Even then,Aminita will get a few of them,or their followers.

Psilocybin does have lethal dose,but you'd eat yourself sick long before you reached it. You're more likely to be killed by a faulty pressure cooker exploding preparing the growing medium than the 'shrooms.

well some can contain penicillin if grown improperly, and some ppl are allergic to penicillin.

shrooms can be a poison as history as showed. shrooms can be a strong medicine or a strong poison. I picked some shrooms 3 months back, had a bad trip, and to this day feel the effects of the bad trip. anxiety, panic attacks, and an identity crisis later i've come to the conclusion somethings just arnt worth risking a few times through. If you guys want to trip on shrooms i suggest buy the ones grown indoors and not fuck around with what i have had to deal with. peace and good luck

I didn't read the rest of the this thread, but contamination/dumb mushroom hunters are the issues. Some dumb teenagers go out in the woods and just start picking anything that resembles cubensis.

As far as contamination, if the grower fucks up and doesn't sterilize everything then you can definitely get sick, and if they are contaminated enough you MIGHT die, but it's unlikely.

Sounds like you picked up a panic disorder from a bad trip,Maui. I got unknowingly dosed w/ a hit of Clearlight Acid,back around '74,and went through the same thing. About all they had to treat it then was Valium and it's first cousin Librium,both highly addictive.

There are a lot more options now,and most Doc's under 60 have had some personal experience w/ drugs. You ought to get checked out and get it treated. It's easy to treat w/modern drugs and you don't have to worry about addiction with most of them.

BTW,go easy on the weed for awhile. Panic disorders related to hallucinogens can be aggreivated by regular weed use. I found that out the hard way.

You hang in there. Trust me it gets better.

its not the mushrooms themselves that give you a bad trip, its your own emotional state.

mushrooms basically enhance the emotions.

since most people cant affect or change their emotions, its advised to use mushroom in as perfect setting as you can, preferably with some good friends.
the less chance of something spoiling the mood,the better.

in other words,if you get bad trips, only do shrooms when you are in a happy mood, in a good safe place and preferably with good friends.

i don't believe in bad trips.

if i ate something to trip out, and i end up seeing spiders, rampaging clowns, my own skin melting off, and generally things i didn't want to see....well then....that's just my tough luck now isn't it?
....the drug works just fine...i tripped out.

Thats not a bad trip, a bad trip is obsessing over your shortcommings, postion in life, unachieved ambitions, its a living purgatory.

Psychedelic tryptamines [and phenethylamines] can undoubtedly conjure up certain things and begin to show you things about yourself and the world that you might not be ready to accept. Your experience is virtually a direct product of it's context; which of course means set and setting. That includes your senses/stimuli generated from the 'external' environment you are in, who you are with etc. and then there is everything that is 'in your head': thoughts, emotions, ideas, memories... and obviously this all contributes to the 'experience'.

First you need to ask yourself: was the trip really bad or was it more like too profound for comfort? If it was bad there is more than likely an underlying reason. People shouldn't try to alter their moods by taking dangerous prescription drugs to address this problem, they should be eating more shrooms. If possible in combination with MDMA. Antipsychotic and benzodiazepine medications can be used to abort a bad trip, but benzo's certainly aren't desirable for long term treatment of anything, except epilepsy maybe. They can sure as hell resolve your anxieties (most of them, anyways) but only temporarily.

To most people 'tripping out' is much more than just visual hallucinations. I suppose on a milder dose there could still be some visual hallucinations without significant alteration of your perception of self or what defines your reality; you haven't really tripped out until your ego has died.

Auzzie07 said:

I didn't read the rest of the this thread, but contamination/dumb mushroom hunters are the issues. Some dumb teenagers go out in the woods and just start picking anything that resembles cubensis.

As far as contamination, if the grower fucks up and doesn't sterilize everything then you can definitely get sick, and if they are contaminated enough you MIGHT die, but it's unlikely.

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Anybody cultivating the teonanácatl indoors should have no problem identifying contaminated substrates. If people don't contaminate virtually everything they are going to have to inoculate a hell of a lot more substrate. They would not be very successful. Most people do this in mason jars, and you can see the fuzzy white mycelium develop. The more common kinds of fungi that could potentially dominate the substrate will grow into a conspicuous green or dark mold.

Alabaster Jones said:

Sounds like you picked up a panic disorder from a bad trip,Maui. I got unknowingly dosed w/ a hit of Clearlight Acid,back around '74,and went through the same thing. About all they had to treat it then was Valium and it's first cousin Librium,both highly addictive.

There are a lot more options now,and most Doc's under 60 have had some personal experience w/ drugs. You ought to get checked out and get it treated. It's easy to treat w/modern drugs and you don't have to worry about addiction with most of them.

BTW,go easy on the weed for awhile. Panic disorders related to hallucinogens can be aggreivated by regular weed use. I found that out the hard way.

You hang in there. Trust me it gets better.

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in consulting countless friends and family members of my state of mind, this is quite simply the greatest response i have ever gotten. Not only have u placed a name to my symptoms but you even talk about how weed can be problematic. I noticed this and quit smoking weed after smoking for 2 years straight everyday. It has been such a hard experience and all because of the shrooms i ate that fatefull night several months back... If you have any advice on getting past this or what ends up happening I would love to hear it. As of recently i have been taking several heart vitamins to lower my adrenal levels (to help them from stop firing so much and making me freak out all the time) Ive picked up meditation and writing in journals and even listening to classical music to help get past it. It seems my issues go away the longer i go without weed. hopefully one day i will be able to be able to smoke as much as i want to again. anyways, a thousand thank yous... MC

ANC said:

Thats not a bad trip, a bad trip is obsessing over your shortcommings, postion in life, unachieved ambitions, its a living purgatory.

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wow very true.I never thought about it like that.
You sure know a lot about halucinogens lol.
Knowledge is poer!
Down with dope!Up with hope!

But really I need to find another shroom connect or start growing them.

no bad trips just ones to remmber

Alabaster Jones said:

Sounds like you picked up a panic disorder from a bad trip,Maui. I got unknowingly dosed w/ a hit of Clearlight Acid,back around '74,and went through the same thing. About all they had to treat it then was Valium and it's first cousin Librium,both highly addictive.

There are a lot more options now,and most Doc's under 60 have had some personal experience w/ drugs. You ought to get checked out and get it treated. It's easy to treat w/modern drugs and you don't have to worry about addiction with most of them.

BTW,go easy on the weed for awhile. Panic disorders related to hallucinogens can be aggreivated by regular weed use. I found that out the hard way.

You hang in there. Trust me it gets better.

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very good advice bro! i have suffered from paic disorder on and off all my life, even when i was a little kid before i did drugs. and weed has in fact made it worse in the past. a lot of stoners will not admit this, but the fact is, it is true. at one point before i went on meds, i quit smoking weed cause it made my anxiety worse. now i take ssris daily. i rarely get panic attacks anymore and smoke top notch medical weed several times daily. ssris are actually very cheap, side effects greatly lessen or go away completely after your body adjusts to it. they're also a lot safer than the media make it seem. they are not for everyone though. they say they're not for suicidal people. also they can take a while before they start working. it took weeks maybe about a month before it effected me, but they also start on a very low dose and build up. it also makes me feel generally in a better mood. makes me sorta tired feeling at times. im on a lower dose now so i dont feel as tired out through out the day. benzodiazepines like xanax, valium also work great for panic attacks but are more dangerous, addictive, and should not be taken long term.

btw, caffiene usually in higher doses can cause panic attacks as well.