Can you help save this little green crack ( hso ) from its demise ?

Im gathering that got your attention

Please do feel free to post any helpfull or not so helpfull information ( anything is better then nothing )

So.. Ill get you guys up to speed briefley

I have a young green crack ( hso ) feminised seedling going at the present

Growing in a 1.5 litre pot filled with coco

I have been expierencing slow growth from the get go , plant is roughly 1.5 months from seed.

I only started using nutes last couple of waterings , house&garden cocos a&b , cyco ryzofuel. I did not want to burn roots or leaf tips with feeding nutes too early so i waited until the 3rd set of true leaves to start a feed program.

I have not got a ph pen so i am quite unsure of my ph levels however i have seen in this graph provided in the link below http://www.hunterwater.com.au/Water-and-Sewer/Water-Supply/Water-Quality/Guidelines-for-Drinking-Water-Quality.aspx
That its not tooooo bad....

Anyways growth has been morbidly slow , over the last couple of days ive noticed some leafs curling downward and the outside of the leafs are yellowing and turning white and dying , pics will be provided !
The plant as a whole is pale green i guess , and shes just having a bit of a rough go.

I haver done some reading around here and certain other forums on the interwebs and think it may be one or a combination of three things

1. Improper ph levels
2. Magnesium defiency
3. Manganese defiency

Having come to this conclusion myself i thought better then cowboying it, id come and ask a second or third or whatever oppenion of you fine ladies and gents

And yes i know , 3rd grow And still no ph pen or ppm meter , i get that i should have avoided said problems with these instruments however cash is always tight my friends ( not a cash croper , never taken a clone or been perpetual grower )

I do hope iv provided enough info . Im probably about to be eaten alive , i just wanted to shoot the shit here before going to my local grow store to befuddle my friends with a bunch of dissorganised questions.

Hope all are well and thankyou for your time

Sinceerly
Kannah

what lights are you using?
and how much nutrients have you been giving?,how often do you water?

it does kind of look like nute burn

For the moment im using a 180w china ufo led half the panel has gone out , im watering once every 4-5 days and im following the house and garden feed chart , i do believe its 1.5 ml/per litre and 1ml per litre of ryzofuel by cyco..

Ill post a pic of my feed chart

Furthermore , doesnt nute burn attack all leaf tips , the affected area seems only to be the middle of the plant , not the top or the bottom section.... Thanks for the reply.

Kannah

So i just wanted to add a few more pics as the days gone by , like previously mentioned , only the mid section of the plant seems to be troubled , top is green,vibrant and praying to the light. the first true leaves at the bottom remain unaffected. Second picture is just to refernce for size

Any replies will be helpfull

I know how knowledgeble you lot are !

Jump onboard , even just to talk shit and make fun of my noob error

Thanks again guys

Bump ?

Remember coco has a 30% air retention ratio. Bump feed to .6 ec and give her 500mls of solution daily or until you see run off. After a bout 3 more sets get added on then bump her up to 1.0 ec. Coco is all over the map when it comes to mfgs the prevailing ph i've found needs to be a touch low 5.5. I've been using nitrozyme for my kelp and was considering psyco rhyzo as I here its on par with Cana's Rhyzo but a little cheaper. Nitrozyme is pretty spendy as all products in that space are; I like the results or nitrozyme; however, its not as clean as I would like by that I mean it gets a little percipitated out of solution in the rez even with mixer pump. Really hope to get your take on the psyco rhyzo. My shop here in town has a 40% off sale so it has my attention.

Well i cannot vouch with total accuracy because i was told that the australian cyco products differ from the north american line.....BUT , if its anything like the aus delivered version ita absolutley fuel gear to use !!!

Sorry i cant reallly elaborate , ill be sticking with cyco ryzofuel , its a little pricey however i cannot seem to fault it !

And iv found when mixed in well it does not seperate from said soloutions

Simple fix...Just get some "Fox Farm Grow Big" nutes ......It has all the good stuff plants love and need to thrive.....As for the pH, I know my tap water is like 8.2 straight out the faucet and that's way too high.... So I went to Walmart and went to the fish section and got this stuff called "Correct pH Fizz Tabs".......I have little delicate fish and if it works for them it will work for plant water.....With this method you do not need a pH tester although I do use a common chemical pool test kit for mine.... They correct the pH to 6.5 - 7.0 no matter what the previous pH was....Tabs are like a couple bucks per box, cheap !!.....Use Jiffy seed starting soil as your base with a little perlite and worm castings mixed in....Jiffy is peat moss, vermiculite, coir pith and lime for pH adjuster.....Great cheap blend !!

I always found Coco to be a pain in the azz

My first ever grow was rdwc in clayballs , maybe beginners luck or a very tollerant strain ( critical kush x pamir gold ) but i went from seed to weed with zero problems.... Well i had to clean my rez weekly but i was dumping the rez weekly regardless.

Maybe green crack is just a bit of a tempremental strain ?

And yes , ive expierenced a few issues with coco , however im going to stick with it for the moment as its simple , no rez changes , no pumps , no air pumps ect ect

I really do miss the absolute balls to the wall growth rates of rdwc however....

Found the culprate , ph was up through the roof , not enough nutes.

Adjusted both and wammmm !

You are shooting in the dark without a PH meter. Proper ph of the feeding solution is a must.

yes, like everyone else said about ph - except for fizzball up there. coco needs 5.5-5.8 during veg and 5.8-6.2 during flower.

You usually start feeding right away in coco in small doses from cotelydon. Once the roots are established, you can feed up to 3 times a day (usually later in flower).

coco has an amazingly fast growth rate once you find out all the quirks (how it retains calcium, etc..). After coco, then you can move onto another soilless that isn't so prone to fungus gnats

SamsonsRiddle said:

yes, like everyone else said about ph - except for fizzball up there. coco needs 5.5-5.8 during veg and 5.8-6.2 during flower.

You usually start feeding right away in coco in small doses from cotelydon. Once the roots are established, you can feed up to 3 times a day (usually later in flower).

coco has an amazingly fast growth rate once you find out all the quirks (how it retains calcium, etc..). After coco, then you can move onto another soilless that isn't so prone to fungus gnats

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You seem real smart.....lol ....# dumbass.... try reading the entire post...I was talking Bout soil not Coco Numbnuts

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AbeFroman said:

You are shooting in the dark without a PH meter. Proper ph of the feeding solution is a must.

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ordered ph pen and ppm meter off ebay , got a cheap ph testing kit for the meanwhile! , you know the one with the test tube and reactor soloution... Anyways yeah.

Shes going great now

Thanks for all the replies.

Callisto405 said:

You seem real smart.....lol ....# dumbass.... try reading the entire post...I was talking Bout soil not Coco Numbnuts

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If you would pull your head out of your ass and read what the op asked instead of just answering a question no one asked, then you wouldn't need to try to prove the point no one needed you to make.

Get a few more posts under your belt, then maybe you'll understand the point here is to help people with what they need help with.