can you use a led light an t5 light to grow weed? (veg state)

Rebs4220

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hey whats goin on guys i got a question, currently growing some cheese, an my brother gave me these 2 led lights the specs are down below, i currently got a t5 on my plant but was wondering if i added this led light to it if it will be any good? thanks again all.

L.E.D specs:

led watts: 6
color: 14
current: 350ma
light brand: skkye light
 

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bryleetch

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14k is UV light, which is supposed to raise the potency during flowering but lower the yield because it stresses the plant. Might want to look more in depth about that but I'm not too sure if it would help during veg. My guess is it could do more harm than good, only reasoning behind that is UV radiation is harmful to delicate tissues (ie skin... sunburn) so a young plant might not be able to handle it. The intentional use for 14k lights are for coral reef aquariums because they penetrate water better so unless you're growing underwater I dont think its gonna help much.
 
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bryleetch said:
14k is UV light, which is supposed to raise the potency during flowering but lower the yield because it stresses the plant. Might want to look more in depth about that but I'm not too sure if it would help during veg. My guess is it could do more harm than good, only reasoning behind that is UV radiation is harmful to delicate tissues (ie skin... sunburn) so a young plant might not be able to handle it. The intentional use for 14k lights are for coral reef aquariums because they penetrate water better so unless you're growing underwater I dont think its gonna help much.
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alright thank you for your advice makes really good sense, an you are right it was my brothers reef take light he had an i do got a clone at the moment its not young it has well established root system so i shouldn't use these led's pretty much right? if so i wont an just continue to use the t5 i got
 
hyroot

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bryleetch said:
14k is UV light, which is supposed to raise the potency during flowering but lower the yield because it stresses the plant. Might want to look more in depth about that but I'm not too sure if it would help during veg. My guess is it could do more harm than good, only reasoning behind that is UV radiation is harmful to delicate tissues (ie skin... sunburn) so a young plant might not be able to handle it. The intentional use for 14k lights are for coral reef aquariums because they penetrate water better so unless you're growing underwater I dont think its gonna help much.
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14,000k does not mean it has uv. Uv-b and uv-a is 280nm -400nm. My induction at 4850k has uv-a and uv-b. Zoo med flora sun t5's at 5000k has uv-a and uv-b. there are no leds that produce uv. Cmh at 4000k puts out uv

here is 20,000k spectrum from coralife



uv benefits plants. its uv-c thats the most harmful. which only cfls' put out.


Rebs4220 said:
hey whats goin on guys i got a question, currently growing some cheese, an my brother gave me these 2 led lights the specs are down below, i currently got a t5 on my plant but was wondering if i added this led light to it if it will be any good? thanks again all.

L.E.D specs:

led watts: 6
color: 14
current: 350ma
light brand: skkye light
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That guy doesnt know what he is talking about.

Those might work for clones. If you want to add some cheap leds with good performance

cree bulbs from home depot do really well




http://www.homedepot.com/p/Cree-30-60-100W-Equivalent-Soft-White-2700K-3-Way-A21-LED-Light-Bulb-BA21-16027OMF-12WE26-1U100/205226208?N=5yc1vZbol

it uses cree xp- e leds. very high qaulity. Same leds as in my area 51 panel


http://www.cree.com/sitecore modules/web/~/media/Files/Cree/LED Components and Modules/XLamp/XLamp Reference Designs/XLampXPE_HEW_A21_RefDes.pdf#search="cree a21"
 
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Rebs4220

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hyroot said:
14,000k does not mean it has uv. Uv-b and uv-a is 280nm -400nm. My induction at 4850k has uv-a and uv-b. Zoo med flora sun t5's at 5000k has uv-a and uv-b. there are no leds that produce uv. Cmh at 4000k puts out uv

here is 20,000k spectrum from coralife



uv benefits plants. its uv-c thats the most harmful. which only cfls' put out.





That guy doesnt know what he is talking about.

Those might work for clones. If you want to add some cheap leds with good performance

cree bulbs from home depot do really well




http://www.homedepot.com/p/Cree-30-60-100W-Equivalent-Soft-White-2700K-3-Way-A21-LED-Light-Bulb-BA21-16027OMF-12WE26-1U100/205226208?N=5yc1vZbol

it uses cree xp- e leds. very high qaulity. Same leds as in my area 51 panel


http://www.cree.com/sitecore modules/web/~/media/Files/Cree/LED Components and Modules/XLamp/XLamp Reference Designs/XLampXPE_HEW_A21_RefDes.pdf#search="cree a21"
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wow this^^^ is great info right here so are you saying i can go ahead an use these on my clone? i wanna boost some light an over all growth the t5 i got is good but i wanna add to it, i got a different light for flowering too. thanks again for the advice to everyone
 
hyroot

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Rebs4220 said:
wow this^^^ is great info right here so are you saying i can go ahead an use these on my clone? i wanna boost some light an i got a different light for flowering too. thanks again for the advice to everyone
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yeah I use the 9.5 watt 5000k cree bulb from home depot for rooting clones. My buddy. Has 12 of those in clamp light fixtures and he veg's with them.

I'm sure those aq leds will do fine for rooting clones. Its not enough for vegging though. You want about 25 watts per sq ft of quality led for veg and flower. Slightly less for veg.

check this thread

https://www.rollitup.org/t/flowering-with-cree-bulbs.656542/
 
Rebs4220

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ohh ok cause im also running my t5 with the led's too is this ok? all im growing is 1 plant at the moment im not growing 5-8 of them lol
 
bryleetch

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That guy doesnt know what he is talking about.
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Apologies for assuming 14000k was UV just because its for aquariums but regardless would a terrestrial plant even be able to grow under that spectrum? I know algae can grow under those conditions which seems like that could be a recipe for disaster. Just curious since you seem to know your lighting
 
Rebs4220

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no worries man i appreciate your advice an apologies also the t5 bulb i got an been using for my clone i picked up at a pet store its used for growing plants in aquariums but its a day light blue bulb an been getting awesome growth so far but wanted to boost the light for my grow like i said :)
 
hyroot

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aquarium.bulbs are fine. I used to veg and flower with aq t5. It worked great. I stepped up to more efficient higher par / cri lighting.
 
hyroot

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Rebs4220 said:
nice man, but i cant flower with what i got now can i?
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no not really. With the aq bulbs I had , I ran uvl redsun, zoo med flora sun,htg 5400k.

for low budget. Best is Philips allstart 330 CMH. I'll post links later when I get home.

if your willing to drop alot of money then led or induction.

Inda gro
apache tech
area 51 led
hans led (bonsai hero)
onyx horticulture (rapid led)
DIY Cree cxa or bridgelux Vero cobs.

I don't use hps myself. Old tech thats been passed up by led and induction.

all those companies have very long warranties too. DIY is build it yourself.

what is the size of the grow area?
 
hyroot

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Rebs4220 said:
to be honest man i dont even know less then 10ft? maybe 5ft total length of my closet
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http://rollitup.org/t/diy-leds-how-to-power-them.801554/

http://rollitup.org/t/diy-led-cree-cxa3070.789575/

or

http://a51led.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=191&zenid=4nanca7j5291bl9lfqavl86m17

or

A philips 330 allstart cmh
400w mag mh ballast
a wing.
$150
philips allstart line bulbs have a quartz crystal coating so They're open reflector rated
philips cmh run they same efficiency as quality led. higher par and cri than hps and most led.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WCOR9W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/400W-MH-Crop-..._sbs_hi_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1WZCVVPT93TSBTKS9DMC
http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Horticulture-GLRGW19-Hydroponic-Reflector/dp/B004YXDPPQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1412919102&sr=1-3&keywords=reflector wing
 
Rebs4220

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we i dont got that kind of money to dish out on that led setup. so i think im jus gunna stick with what i got now
 
cassinfo

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hyroot said:
aquarium.bulbs are fine. I used to veg and flower with aq t5. It worked great. I stepped up to more efficient higher par / cri lighting.
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What's good Hyroot? What do you think of these aquarium lights? Two 250 watt mh and some T5 surrounds it. I was gifted these lights but was wondering if they would do more harm than good since they are gear toward aquariums.I was wondering if I could just swap out the aquarium bulbs and replace with a 250 watt horticulture bulbs? Much appreciation for any input you may have. Thank you
 

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^^^DUde make your own post wtf dont be jacking mine cmon now, Make your own thread please
 
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