canada throws back US cit

silasraven

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http://news.yahoo.com/canada-orders-us-soldier-fled-war-deported-175053162.html

God bless these people for using their rights.


TORONTO (AP) — Canada has ordered the deportation of a female soldier who fled the U.S. military in order to avoid the war in Iraq, officials said Thursday.
War Resisters Support Campaign spokeswoman Michelle Robidoux said that Citizenship and Immigration Canada has ordered Kimberly Rivera to leave the country by Sept. 20.
Rivera is meeting with her lawyers to determine her next step and was unavailable to comment, said Robidoux.
"We are very upset about this decision," said Robidoux. "The cases of war resisters are not being looked at properly. (Immigration Minister Jason) Kenney continues to intervene by telling immigration officers to red flag US soldiers who are applying for asylum as criminally inadmissible. We think that has tainted the whole process and the government should withdraw that directive."
Robidoux said they will likely call on Kenney to grant the family humanitarian and compassionate consideration and allow them to stay.
"Canada's immigration system is considered among the most fair and generous in the world. It is a matter of public record that Ms. Rivera has had multiple opportunities to make her case to stay in Canada," said Kenney's spokeswoman, Alexis Pavlich.
Rivera, a 30-year-old Army private, served in Iraq in 2006. She said she became disillusioned with the mission. She crossed the border into Canada while on leave in February 2007, after she was ordered to serve another tour there.
After arriving in Canada on leave, she applied for refugee status.
She currently lives in Toronto with her husband and four children. Her two youngest children were born in Canada.
In January of 2009, Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board ordered her and her family to leave the country or face deportation. Rivera appealed that decision.
Rivera's lawyer, Alyssa Manning, has argued in Canada's federal court that her client would likely face a court martial and jail time, possibly up to five years, if she is deported.
The War Resisters Support Campaign, which notes that there are approximately 200 Iraq war resisters in Canada, said two other Iraq war resisters who were deported, Robin Long and Clifford Cornell, faced year-long jail sentences upon their return.
Long was given a dishonorable discharge in 2008 and sentenced to 15 months in a military prison after pleading guilty to charges of desertion.
The lower house of Canada's Parliament passed a nonbinding motion in 2009 urging that U.S. military deserters be allowed to stay in Canada, but the Conservative government ignored the vote.
During the Vietnam War, up to 90,000 Americans won refuge in Canada, most of them to avoid the military draft. Many were given permanent residence status that led to Canadian citizenship, but the majority went home after President Jimmy Carter granted amnesty in the late 1970s.
 

Carne Seca

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1. She was deployed to Iraq in 2006. We had already been at war for several years. She knew what she was getting into.
2. "It is a matter of public record that Ms. Rivera has had multiple opportunities to make her case to stay in Canada" 'nuff said.
3. She volunteered. No one held a gun to her head and made her sign up for the military.
4. She violated the law and has to face the consequences.

Personally, I don't see the problem here. She broke the law and continues to elude prosecution. Why should she be treated different than any other law breaker?
 

dvs1038

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It seems to me that these ppl simply enlisted in the military for an easy paycheck cause she probably joined during peacetime and when her country came to her and told her ok now its time to earn all those paychecks you've been getting she bones out for another country, I say they deport the bitch and she should serve time, she was only looking for easy money and ran the 1st chance she got.
 

ru4r34l

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It seems to me that these ppl simply enlisted in the military for an easy paycheck cause she probably joined during peacetime and when her country came to her and told her ok now its time to earn all those paychecks you've been getting she bones out for another country, I say they deport the bitch and she should serve time, she was only looking for easy money and ran the 1st chance she got.
Not the first chance, she served in 2006.

regards,
 

Carne Seca

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It seems to me that these ppl simply enlisted in the military for an easy paycheck cause she probably joined during peacetime and when her country came to her and told her ok now its time to earn all those paychecks you've been getting she bones out for another country, I say they deport the bitch and she should serve time, she was only looking for easy money and ran the 1st chance she got.
She was deployed in 2006. At that point we had TWO wars on our hands.
 

patrickkawi37

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maybe when she went to iraq she learned what a crock of shit america is, how she was lied to her whole life about "fighting for freedom" and now fled to canada? if someone told me to fight in a war for america i would laugh in there face.
 

patrickkawi37

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i dont believe someone should be punished for changing there mind\political views. and if you question the motives of your country your considered a lunatic so its not like she can say, i dont want to fight cause you my friend.. are a brainwashed idiot.
 

dvs1038

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So ur saying she should be able to join the military allow the gov't to spent how many thousands of dollars training her but when it comes time complete her obligation to her country she should be allowed to say well I changed my mind now I don't wanna be in the military anymore since I have a husband and kids now so I don't need that gov't paycheck anymore?

Nobody forced her to join up, she signed of her own free will, this is what we call being a flake and not following thru with a commitment maybe this is the reason we have a country that is falling apart because everyone feels its ok to just bail out on something you gave your word on, you put you hand over your heart and pledged loyalty, the military isn't a system developed to discuss and debate and say well idk if I like the way ur doing that so I'm not gonna do it. They r called orders for a reason.
 

patrickkawi37

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alot of people are not smart enough to know what they are signing up for until they get there. recruits are like cars salesmen and they scam the fuck out of you and as soon as they have your signature your are fucked.
 

dvs1038

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So ur basically saying your word is shit and ur nothing but a liar correct. If you are too stupid to understand that you are giving away you rights as an individual for a paycheck then sucks to be you, and u probably belong in the military anyways if u need that explained to you.
 

Johnny Retro

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alot of people are not smart enough to know what they are signing up for until they get there. recruits are like cars salesmen and they scam the fuck out of you and as soon as they have your signature your are fucked.
And a lot of people would consider someone not smart if THEIR sentences/grammar were comparable to that of a 4th grader. But hey..to each THEIR own.
 

MojoRison

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When I first saw the the headline for this post I was like.......What? Canada has a catch and release program for Americans...then I read the post and went aww fuck, more political propaganda.
 

patrickkawi37

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this isnt school im not obligated to use punctuation and all the nonsense thats going to take up more time than necessary to get my point across. Unfortunately i got a computer as a kid and developed the instant message typing at 75+wpm. so unless im using microsoft word, it looks like a mess i know this. fuck off.

my brother is in the navy, i know what he makes.. i can wipe my ass with that paycheck, to say you give up all your rights and are a slave to a nation of morons and cant go back and change your mind.. sounds free to me. wtf. the military would never take me, im on the wrong team, i ask questions i am not a corn fed puppet
 
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