Canada’s medical pot producers set sights on recreational users

VIANARCHRIS

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Canada’s producers of medical marijuana are sitting on a seven-tonne stash of weed, with the inventory steadily growing as supply exceeds demand in the legal system, according to the most recent Health Canada numbers.

Health Canada is currently studying 401 new applications for licences to produce cannabis for medical use, on top of the 27 firms that are currently in production across the country. In addition, the department is receiving about two new demands for licences a week, Health Canada spokesman Sean Upton said.

Still, the department acknowledged there is already an “overall sufficient supply of marijuana for medical purposes to meet the current access needs of registered clients.”

Faced with this surplus capacity, producers of medical marijuana have launched a lobbying campaign to persuade the government to offer them privileged access to the market for recreational marijuana, once the drug is legalized.

“What we continue to hear from government, both at the provincial and federal level, is they are very focused on ensuring a high level of control and quality on the production of cannabis for the adult recreational space, and we are very supportive of that,” said Greg Engel, chief executive of Tilray, which has been a licensed producer for nearly two years.

However, the surplus points to flaws in the federal model of medical cannabis, as users increasingly opt to purchase drugs at unregulated dispensaries, Vancouver lawyer Kirk Tousaw said.

He said it would be a mistake for the government to expand the model for medical marijuana when it legalizes the drug for recreational purposes.

“The difficulty is that taking a failed system and just making it bigger isn’t going to make it work,” said Mr. Tousaw, who represents a variety of clients in the cannabis industry.

He argues that Health Canada imposes too many costly regulations on licensed producers, mostly as part of an effort to prevent people involved in the illegal trade from joining the legal market.

“You don’t need a PhD to grow high-quality cannabis that is contaminant-free. Most growers across the country are doing a great job of that and have not graduated from horticultural school,” Mr. Tousaw said.

However, Health Canada found that licensed producers were holding 7,312 kilograms of marijuana in their inventory as of Sept. 30. Three months earlier, on June 30, the inventory sat at 5,445 kilograms, which was up by 3,400 kilograms over the previous year.

Under current rules, medical marijuana is sent to users by registered mail – a system that both Mr. Engel and Mr. Tousaw agree should not be replicated for the recreational market.

“There is no question that some type of consumer-facing model is what is preferred in the adult recreational space, which to date has led to the proliferation of the dispensaries,” Mr. Engel said.

Mr. Tousaw added: “People want to buy it from stores, like everything else. Particularly plants, this is something you like to smell, look at, before you purchase. It’s like tomatoes. You want to see the quality before you spend your money.”

Licensed producer Bedrocan Canada has just slashed the price of all of its products to $5 a gram, down from $7.50. Other firms charge up to $12 a gram for medical marijuana, but Bedrocan said it has the ability, as its production capacities increase, to make its medical product more accessible.

In an interview, Bedrocan president Marc Wayne added that the company is “flexing muscle” in the wake of the rise of illegal storefronts that sell marijuana for both medical and recreational use.

“It’s not that we don’t believe in storefronts – but we don’t believe there is a level playing field here,” said Mr. Wayne, who is also the chair of the Canadian Medical Cannabis Industry Association.

In last year’s Speech from the Throne, the Trudeau government vowed to “legalize, regulate and restrict access to marijuana.” The government’s point man on the file, Liberal MP and former Toronto police chief Bill Blair, promised a series of controls once the market was opened up.

“There needs to be reasonable restrictions on making sure that we keep it away from kids, because I think that is very much in the public interest. We also have to ensure that the social and the health harms are properly managed and mitigated, and that can be done through regulation,” he said in a recent interview.
 

CalyxCrusher

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Allow them priviledged access for rec eh? Thats the same attitude thats causing thousands of Canadians pain and suffering as they(LPs) offer subpar, over priced ,irradiated meds and lobby against dispensaries and home grows.

All in the best interest, of pati....errrmmm investors. Fucking lowest of the low scum pig fucks. If people cant see their true colors and intentions now I dont know what would be needed beyond what we already know. Its just too bad everyone here has known this from the start
 
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cannadan

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legal medical should not be a guaranteed a place in legal recreational markets...(or Privledged access)
they should be completely separate entities...with completely separate set of rules and regulations ...

We as consumers still know the difference between medical and recreational mj....we also know
when we are being gouged by a company....especially one that touts being compassionate...

"In an interview, Bedrocan president Marc Wayne added that the company is “flexing muscle” in the wake of the rise of illegal storefronts that sell marijuana for both medical and recreational use"

You choose to lower your prices to protest another business that sells a similar product to the one you do.... rather than compete with them head to head....with your bottom line.
Where are those lower prices to medical patients that absolutely need this medication to live....?
 

OGEvilgenius

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legal medical should not be a guaranteed a place in legal recreational markets...(or Privledged access)
they should be completely separate entities...with completely separate set of rules and regulations ...

We as consumers still know the difference between medical and recreational mj....we also know
when we are being gouged by a company....especially one that touts being compassionate...

"In an interview, Bedrocan president Marc Wayne added that the company is “flexing muscle” in the wake of the rise of illegal storefronts that sell marijuana for both medical and recreational use"

You choose to lower your prices to protest another business that sells a similar product to the one you do.... rather than compete with them head to head....with your bottom line.
Where are those lower prices to medical patients that absolutely need this medication to live....?
Well, lowering prices is sort of exactly that - competing head to head. His other complaints not withstanding, guy obviously thought he was going to get a government license to print money.
 

cannadan

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to me the compassionate route would be to enter the market at 2.50/gram (not 10/gr then drop to 7.50/gr and then to 5/gr)
50 percent less than the grey/black market pricing would have gone a long way towards making these companies claims of compassionate pricing seem real.

The descending price scale.... to me, means we hold up our pricing to the very max we can ....keep it there for the maximum amount of time... before we go and have a story produced... about how we are flexing our muscle against illegal weed ....
 

cannadan

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its almost like they would sooner be portrayed in this manner than to not be in the media at all...
almost like a well known personality disorder....
 

ricky1lung

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It's only natural that established lp's would want to expand into a rec market.
I seriously doubt they will be the only source for legal mj. Considering the liberal connections to some current lp's it would be political suicide to favour them and outlaw home grows.

At least the pro mj lobby is growing.
 

cannadan

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So there's 7 ton-o-weed sitting around that nobody wants. Say it takes a year to legalize...who in the hell is going to want stale dried up buds at any price? For that matter, how long is the medicine people are buying now been sitting? Is it retested for mold before it is shipped?
this is so so true Chris...and it definitely should have to be retested even after.... say 9 month's or one outdoor season.
Also it was obvious that those who got licences early had some kind of inside connection to ensure they got every thing corrected on their applications,otherwise with the lack of direction
I highly doubt anyone could have put together a successful and entirely complete application.
 
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kDude

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"“It’s not that we don’t believe in storefronts – but we don’t believe there is a level playing field here,” said Mr. Wayne"

lmFao
seriously? whining there's no level playing field.. yet y'all try to have a marijuana monopoly.. yeah that's fair.
it's not level cause y'all have competition? aww poor crummy LP can't compete.. boo hoo

man the douchbaggery of these LP's is at all time comical proportions.

i just hope the underground is ready to outgrow these twats when it goes legal for all, and finally put these money hungry douchbags out of business.
 
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