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Lightgreen2k

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ricky1lung said:
We just have different points of view. We don't have to agree.
The facts don't change though, neither side is innocent.

Bottom line is, home grows need to be legal.
Lp's and dispensaries can work out a production and supply chain between them in a regulated and controlled system.

I think everyone would rather know what is and isn't allowed to be in their meds than leave it to assumptions or blind trust.

If you don't want to grab a product off a shelf and prefer your own garden than great, it's a fun hobby. Those who would rather buy a pack of splifs than grow it should have that choice, lp's are needed for a real market with quality products.
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I have to disagree on this point of your view.

Why should LP'S supply dispensaries. Why can't a designated grower or PPL'S have their buds tested from a 3rd party company that test for Mold and heavy metals and cbd/thc content and supply a dispensary.

Why should there be room for the LPS. Why are they here , it's not as if they were growing marijuana for the last 10-20 years and are experts at growing marijuana and master different learning curves or no when to add Nitrogen to certain strains or ones that are light feeders.

This girl that just got out of school is the head grower in charge for one of the Lps.

she majored in plant science and botany , so I'm wondering how she's an expert on the plant?
 
ricky1lung

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Lightgreen2k said:
I have to disagree on this point of your view.

Why should LP'S supply dispensaries. Why can't a designated grower or PPL'S have their buds tested from a 3rd party company that test for Mold and heavy metals and cbd/thc content and supply a dispensary.

Why should there be room for the LPS. Why are they here , it's not as if they were growing marijuana for the last 10-20 years and are experts at growing marijuana and master different learning curves or no when to add Nitrogen to certain strains or ones that are light feeders.

This girl that just got out of school is the head grower in charge for one of the Lps.

she majored in plant science and botany , so I'm wondering how she's an expert on the plant?
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What would make that dg any different from an lp? Theyd both be permitted to grow and would both need to be tested.

No difference between them.
We already know why lp's are here, you and I have talked about it for a few posts already.

A degree in botany, as much as it may surprise you, would help people grow better and have a better understanding of how plants work.

Geesh. Post on with your buddies and attempt to ridicule me.
It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
 
The Hippy

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Sorry but corp weed is NOT flying of the shelf...as evidenced by the sales numbers...give it up. Your only convincing yourself at this point.
If it wasn't forced on some folks (mmpr) they'd all be gone by now.
 
ricky1lung

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The Hippy said:
Sorry but corp weed is NOT flying of the shelf...as evidenced by the sales numbers...give it up. Your only convincing yourself at this point.
If it wasn't forced on some folks (mmpr) they'd all be gone by now.
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Why was the mmpr forced on some people?
Corp weed and retailers like dispensaries are part of the whole solution, not the solution.

What part of that is so hard to understand?
 
c ray

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Lightgreen2k said:
I have to disagree on this point of your view.

Why should LP'S supply dispensaries. Why can't a designated grower or PPL'S have their buds tested from a 3rd party company that test for Mold and heavy metals and cbd/thc content and supply a dispensary.

Why should there be room for the LPS. Why are they here , it's not as if they were growing marijuana for the last 10-20 years and are experts at growing marijuana and master different learning curves or no when to add Nitrogen to certain strains or ones that are light feeders.

This girl that just got out of school is the head grower in charge for one of the Lps.

she majored in plant science and botany , so I'm wondering how she's an expert on the plant?
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bingo!

the govt. in their infinite wisdom decided not to empower an already flourishing industry, and instead decided it would be best to create a new industry from scratch, with newbie players. the only logical conclusion is that the MMPR was designed to fail.
 
Lightgreen2k

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ricky1lung said:
What would make that dg any different from an lp? Theyd both be permitted to grow and would both need to be tested.

No difference between them.
We already know why lp's are here, you and I have talked about it for a few posts already.

A degree in botany, as much as it may surprise you, would help people grow better and have a better understanding of how plants work.

Geesh. Post on with your buddies and attempt to ridicule me.
It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
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I don't have buddies here. Some of the people liking my post I have disagreed with at times.

At least you believe in Home Grows and grow yourself.
 
Lightgreen2k

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ricky1lung said:
Why was the mmpr forced on some people?
Corp weed and retailers like dispensaries are part of the whole solution, not the solution.

What part of that is so hard to understand?
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With the "cancellation of the mmar" prior to the court battles and injuction. the program ended.

what was the alternative for people getting medicine legally ..

The Lps or Black Market. Now some peope might say F@#k this and goto the black market, while others want to follow the law.

People new to the program only have one choice , it's not if they have option A,B,C.

If you don't have options and only one choice against your will, that would appear to me to be forced.
 
The Hippy

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Lightgreen2k said:
With the "cancellation of the mmar" prior to the court battles and injuction. the program ended.

what was the alternative for people getting medicine legally ..

The Lps or Black Market. Now some peope might say F@#k this and goto the black market, while others want to follow the law.

People new to the program only have one choice , it's not if they have option A,B,C.

If you don't have options and only one choice against your will, that would appear to me to be forced.
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Thank I've lost interest in educating him anymore.
 
ricky1lung

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Lightgreen2k said:
With the "cancellation of the mmar" prior to the court battles and injuction. the program ended.

what was the alternative for people getting medicine legally ..

The Lps or Black Market. Now some peope might say F@#k this and goto the black market, while others want to follow the law.

People new to the program only have one choice , it's not if they have option A,B,C.

If you don't have options and only one choice against your will, that would appear to me to be forced.
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Why is that and why support the people who helped caused it to happen?
 
BobCajun

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It'll always be a game of independent growers competing against legal growers. I haven't seen prices go through the floor in Netherlands or Spain yet so apparently legalization doesn't necessarily cause the market to tank. No big producer can put the same care into it as a small producer. I actually pity the big commercial producers because they really haven't got a chance of competing, with all the taxes and license fees etc. Maybe tourists will use the Cannabis Commission stores though. One thing's for sure, the Canada/US cross border trafficking will certainly be booming. The Indians will be making a mint running it across the river.
 
doingdishes

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OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:
well Ricky..what we all see here is that :

people should be allowed to grow their own
people should be allowed to grow their own
people should be allowed to grow their own
people should be allowed to grow their own

and what ever the LPS wish to do AFTER us getting that RIGHT..

then go for it.

but just because one has a vested interest in LP'ism

it should not supercede

people should be allowed to grow their own
people should be allowed to grow their own
people should be allowed to grow their own

because that is corporatism
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you forgot a pre chorus in that song...haha
 
ricky1lung

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c ray said:
bingo!

the govt. in their infinite wisdom decided not to empower an already flourishing industry, and instead decided it would be best to create a new industry from scratch, with newbie players. the only logical conclusion is that the MMPR was designed to fail.
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That's all fine and dandy when leaving out the cause, but that's only telling part of the story.
 
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BobCajun said:
It'll always be a game of independent growers competing against legal growers. I haven't seen prices go through the floor in Netherlands or Spain yet so apparently legalization doesn't necessarily cause the market to tank. No big producer can put the same care into it as a small producer. I actually pity the big commercial producers because they really haven't got a chance of competing, with all the taxes and license fees etc. Maybe tourists will use the Cannabis Commission stores though. One thing's for sure, the Canada/US cross border trafficking will certainly be booming. The Indians will be making a mint running it across the river.
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Legalization will always create a more expensive product unless it's full out legalization where the plant is considered like any plant. Any kind of artificial restrictions will keep the price up. Now not everyone saw this as dispensaries and dealers didn't really lower their prices but at the height of the MMAR prices of weed in BC were $700-900 per LB. This was because each licensed person was allowed to grow up to 100's of plants and it was easy to get a doctor to sign. This was the closest we'll ever see what the price of weed would be with true legalization. I must say it was an AWESOME time. I use to drive around with a 1/2 lb on my front seat fully visible LOL
 
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OGEvilgenius

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ricky1lung said:
I won't even bother picking this apart. Everyone else who knows anything can clearly see your errors without me having to point them out.

It's funny how some people think people outside of the program have no clue what they're talking about, yet are forced to chase their own tails when they argue truthful statements.

Step outside the box to see the whole picture.
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Another walk away without an answer. At some point you need to look in the mirror and admit that you're wrong.
 
OGEvilgenius

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ricky1lung said:
No I'm not invested, no I have no interest in investing.
I'm a long time mj user that is interested in the whole picture.
I never wanted to get scripted, I'm glad I didn't after seeing all of the bs that came with it.

By saying the cc's also sell meds they may get for free also bolsters the lp's argument.

It's really shitty that people decided to profit from the mmar and take advantage of the program. It caused changes that further screwed up an already shaky system. We all know it's never been perfect, but to say it's all "their" fault and these are the good guys, is just plain wrong.

So we need something that works for everyone, they all have their place in a legal system.
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It's shitty that one group decides to profit but not another. :rolleyes:
 
ricky1lung

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The Hippy said:
Thank I've lost interest in educating him anymore.
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It's funny you think you're educating anyone. All of your posts and threads consist of the same tired message with fabricated "proof" to suit your agenda.

You grow your own and that's great, it would also be great if because you grow your own you allow other people to talk about things they want to without interjecting with your tired and played out message.

We get it, you don't like lp's or understand the need for regulated producers in a legal market may it be med or rec.
 
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