Canada's Pot Legalization To Run Afoul Of Global Treaties, Trudeau Warned

VIANARCHRIS

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OTTAWA — The Liberal government will have to do substantial work on the international stage before it can follow through on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's promise to legalize marijuana, new documents suggest.

That work will have to include figuring out how Canada would comply with three international treaties to which the country is a party, all of which criminalize the possession and production of marijuana.

Trudeau's plan to legalize, regulate and restrict access to marijuana is already proving a complicated and controversial undertaking on the domestic front, in part because it requires working with the provinces.


Internationally, says a briefing note prepared for the prime minister, Canada will also have to find a way to essentially tell the world how it plans to conform to its treaty obligations.


The note to Trudeau was obtained by The Canadian Press through the Access to Information Act.

Errol Mendes, a constitutional and international law expert at the University of Ottawa, says the government faces a long, hard slog in the global arena before it can legalize pot at home.

Legalization, he said, is a growing movement among some countries, particularly in Latin America, but it faces stiff opposition in the United States — including within some quarters of the Obama administration.

If the Republicans win the White House in November, the opposition will be even stronger in a country where some see legalizing pot "as the thin edge of the wedge," said Mendes.

"It will be an ongoing dialogue which has to be dealt with at the highest levels, and it's not going to be an easy one, and it's not going to be a quick one either. It's going to take many years."

The Liberal policy means that Canada will have to amend its participation in three international conventions:

  • The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961, as amended by the 1972 Protocol;
  • The Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971;
  • The United Nations Convention against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances of 1988.
"All three require the criminalization of possession and production of cannabis," says the briefing note.

"As part of examining legalization of cannabis possession and production, Canada will need to explore how to inform the international community and will have to take the steps needed to adjust its obligations under these conventions."

Global Affairs Canada, the lead government department on international treaties, did not respond to a series of questions on what lies ahead for the government on that front.

The world's drug problem will be the focus of a special session of the United Nations General Assembly in April, the memo says.

"At the meeting, several South American countries as well as Mexico wish to discuss what they perceive as more effective policy approaches to respond to the current realities of the drug problem, which could include decriminalization/legalization of illicit drugs, harm reduction, and/or a call to renegotiate the international drug control conventions."

"The problem is the government having to explain why it's doing it, why it feels it has to do it."
Mendes said Canada could still find a way to adhere to the treaties, but will have to show that legalizing marijuana helps reduce illicit drug use.

"There's no international treaty where you cannot make reservations," he said.

"The problem is the government having to explain why it's doing it, why it feels it has to do it, given the conviction (with which) Prime Minister Trudeau has said it's a failure in terms of enforcement … in almost every respect and is driving up the crime rate in some parts of Canada."

The Liberals plan to remove marijuana consumption and incidental possession from the Criminal Code, while creating new laws with heavy penalties to those who give it to minors or operate a motor vehicle under its influence.

Trudeau has promised to set up a task force comprising federal, provincial and municipal government, while seeking input from experts in public health, substance abuse and the police, design a new system of marijuana sales and distribution.
 

nobody important 666

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Maybe time to get us out of the un. Maybe its the time for us to become self sufficient again and stop relying on global corporations for a work force.
 

ispice

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The sovereign people have ... no direct effecient control. They are sovereign de jure but not de facto, except at election times. The actual powers experienced by the people consist chiefly in the periodic choice of another set of masters who make laws to suit themselves and enforce them untill their terms of office expires, regardless of the will of the people. We are governed by an elective aristocracy of wealth. Behind the government and legislatures are the corporations and the trusts ...behind the political monopolists are the industrial monopolists ... the pricipal remebdy is direct legislation.
Thats from 1912.... same as it ever was. From R.C. Henders, then president of the Manitoba Grain Growers Association.
 

CalyxCrusher

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More sabre rattling again, yawn. These empty threats were used with Uruguay when they wanted to legalize. Guess what happened there?...........they legalized, I believe the same was said when Portugal wanted to decrim as well. Not sure about if it was used during WA, and CO, trying to legalize, but it wouldn't surprise me. Another phantom boogeyman to try and keep people scared due to the drug war and the fallacies used to keep people uninformed and scared.

Sounds like it's their last ditch effort to keep people from going against what the W.H.O has been trying to scare people with, vaporware stories. Because if the levee breaks on legalization country by country and the sky in fact DOESN'T fall like they've been touting all these decades, well then, that'd be egg on their faces. And we all know how hard it is for people to admit they're wrong, so good luck with organizations. They'd rather continue the charade of false flags sooner then admit being wrong
 

VIANARCHRIS

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More sabre rattling again, yawn. These empty threats were used with Uruguay when they wanted to legalize. Guess what happened there?...........they legalized, I believe the same was said when Portugal wanted to decrim as well. Not sure about if it was used during WA, and CO, trying to legalize, but it wouldn't surprise me. Another phantom boogeyman to try and keep people scared due to the drug war and the fallacies used to keep people uninformed and scared.

Sounds like it's their last ditch effort to keep people from going against what the W.H.O has been trying to scare people with, vaporware stories. Because if the levee breaks on legalization country by country and the sky in fact DOESN'T fall like they've been touting all these decades, well then, that'd be egg on their faces. And we all know how hard it is for people to admit they're wrong, so good luck with organizations. They'd rather continue the charade of false flags sooner then admit being wrong
I think the deal with WA and CO (and ORE, AK and DC) is that they legalized as a state but are not legal federally. The feds signed the treaty, not the individual states. I'm not sure where that fits in with upholding the rules of the treaty, but I haven't heard of any repercussions against the U.S. about it. It's exactly what you say...fear mongering from the ignorant, misinformed and socially backward. It's to be expected as prohibition goes through it's final death throes.
 

cannadan

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  • The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961, as amended by the 1972 Protocol;
  • The Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971;
  • The United Nations Convention against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances of 1988.
These will all become history lessons is all....they are out dated...and are due for revisions....
 

torontomeds

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  • The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961, as amended by the 1972 Protocol;
  • The Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971;
  • The United Nations Convention against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances of 1988.
These will all become history lessons is all....they are out dated...and are due for revisions....

Here is a message from the late great peter tosh, his take on the UN and Herb. He somes it up perfect. *skip to 2:17 I tried to post it so it will go straight to the part but that feature is not working.
 

doingdishes

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  • The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961, as amended by the 1972 Protocol;
  • The Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971;
  • The United Nations Convention against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances of 1988.
These will all become history lessons is all....they are out dated...and are due for revisions....
these were all before research was done to show that it's not what they thought.
why not say "we are going forward as the laws are antiquated" and let the chips fall. Elvis was laughed at and then he made it..The Beatles were looked at as bad until they came back from Germany...etc
if you never take the chance, you never get the glory. i think they should do it. i bet in a few years, Canada will be seen as forward thinking. the other countries that legalized it are still around and haven't blown up or had hell fire and brimstone rain down on them
 
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