So I was reading my high times January edition I just got and there is a article about how a man in canada named Rick Simpson has been making hemp oil(thc oil, honey oil) w.e you want to call to treat cancer as oppssed to chemotherapy or radition treatment. Along with many other things it's very jaw dropping to say the least. Aparrently medical studies have been done in Spain since 1999 as to the validity of this. Studies show that the hemp/cannibus plant a it properties make brain tumors in rat/mice eat themselves in layman terms. I really would like to do more research into this myself as I am a biology major in school. Idk you just have to watch this or read up about for youself to see what I'm talkig about. There's a 7 vidoe series of this on YouTube.com. Look up "cannibus cure for cancer". Seriously guys do it. I'll be posting this in the medical section too.
Cancer cure!?
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saycheese
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horseshit. its a bunch of simple minded canadian farmers that spew anecdotal fairy tales. they have no solid evidence or at least present none. this is actually a huge problem with trying to make a case for medicinal purposes when you have idiots like this giving us a bad image. rick simpson is doing far worse damage than good. what we need is smart well spoken figure heads that don't look like Jack Herer that are able to use scientific research to present a case. Not autistic farmers rubbing hemp oil on moles so they magically disappear.
bluetick
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So you are saying if your mom was dying of cancer, chemo didn't work and neither did any of the other alternatives, you wouldn't try hemp using hemp oil? I've seen that video many times. I don't know if it is true or not but I sure would try it. It's hard to knock something if you havn't tried it.
Bryguy420
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If chemo didn't work, there really isn't much else left. I'd only give honey oil to a cancer patient to ease their pain, not as a crackpot cure. I agree with the statement that we need more people out there promoting the real truth about marijuana, instead of spreading slander that could further the spread of hate towards such a wonderful plant.
And I don't know if it true or not. But it is unfortunate that our governments won't allow or give funding for stuidies of the study of usefull effects of cannibus to universities and other reaserchers. Instead all right are eclusivlly to major medical companies. Shy. And I believe our governments are doing nothing but beig a protaginest to Simpson and people like him buy not publicly releasing studies on the true effects of this wonderful plant. True or not nothing is being done and it does suck. I am not a medical marijuana user nor a user of marijuana of any form but I believe the slander of this plant without proper knowlegde that has been going on for over 70 years is rediculous. Imop atleast.
Iron Lion Zion
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No company will do research with marijuana or anything else that is natural for that matter (when it comes to curing cancer, aids, other terrible diseases/disorders). It's quite simple, why would they dump millions of dollars into researching something that they cannot patent?
acepowerz
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Thats the stupid shit ive ever heard.... Havent u heard your moma tell you just cause ur friends jump off a bridge doesnt mean u have to? Another good one the movie the cure hell nothing else worked so lets go out and try a bunch of shit we dont know what it does and kill our selves. hmmmm way to use ur head there buddy...
Bryguy420
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Why charge someone 20 bucks for a dub sack when they can pay hundreds of thousands of dollars on chemo therepy and doctor visits, not to mention scripts. Why put all those people out of work, with them being honest, hard working members of society---when the United States could pay some pot dealer to grow some plants and hook these dying patients up with some cheap weed? That should go over well with the senate. That's why weed will never be fully legalized. Sadly, the government has to repeatedly justify wasting countless billions of dollars a year when a plant could cure not most of the problems in the world today---but definately a bunch of them.
bobtokes
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so having said that would cancer be more common in people who don't use it.
AquafinaOrbit
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This isn't new information at all, and is where the tar argument comes from. The tar in marijuana is 4 times harsher then that of tobacco, both from how long we hold it in and the type of smoke. However, its also been shown to kill aging (cancerous) cells; so is it OK to smoke because it kills the cancer cells it creates, or does it create more then it kills. Anyway do some research, you should be able to find more then a couple Canada Drs opinion.
saycheese
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this exactly. but to answer the previous poster about if I would try it for cancer if chemo didn't work, then i'd have to say sure maybe but its an absolute crap shoot. However, to assume something is true without proof and using the frame of mind that it hasn't been disproven is ridiculous. Again, this video by Rick Simpson does nothing but hurt our cause. If claims are gonna be made they must be absolutely legit otherwise we ALL loose credibility.
thesurface
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Alright I'm going to end this ridiculousness, listen. I encourage everyone to do their own research, but Cannabinoids have been shown to be a neuroprotectant, prevent arythmia of the heart, hyperthermia, anti-emetic, kill cancer, help with auto immune diseases on and on etc etc. from what i recall
Cancer cells are created from free radicals. Smoking is carcinogenic by nature and we breathe in those free radicals. Apoptosis makes sure that whenever cells in our body are damaged beyond repair it they commit suicide.
Cancer cells are cells created when apoptosis fails and in a sense the cell becomes immortal and send out signals to the rest of the body to promote growth called angiogenesis (if i recall).
Cannabanoids re-introduce apoptosis in those cancer cells while leaving healthy cells alone. This is just a tip of the iceberg on information guys.
As I said earlier its a neuroprotectant, and 84% cns recovery in rats that were given nerve gas then shot 40 mins later with Aminoalkylindoles, specifically hu-210 (synthetic cannabanoid).
What's that have to do with anything ^? Well I read up US gov is researching shots we can give our soldiers to prevent death in biological warfare.
I won't leave you all high and dry here's a good website with lots of information and case studies.
http://www.pacifier.com/~alive/index_se_cmu.htm
Hope that clears up some of it
Cancer cells are created from free radicals. Smoking is carcinogenic by nature and we breathe in those free radicals. Apoptosis makes sure that whenever cells in our body are damaged beyond repair it they commit suicide.
Cancer cells are cells created when apoptosis fails and in a sense the cell becomes immortal and send out signals to the rest of the body to promote growth called angiogenesis (if i recall).
Cannabanoids re-introduce apoptosis in those cancer cells while leaving healthy cells alone. This is just a tip of the iceberg on information guys.
As I said earlier its a neuroprotectant, and 84% cns recovery in rats that were given nerve gas then shot 40 mins later with Aminoalkylindoles, specifically hu-210 (synthetic cannabanoid).
What's that have to do with anything ^? Well I read up US gov is researching shots we can give our soldiers to prevent death in biological warfare.
I won't leave you all high and dry here's a good website with lots of information and case studies.
http://www.pacifier.com/~alive/index_se_cmu.htm
Hope that clears up some of it
thesurface
Active Member
Don't look now cheese, but you're spreading misinformation
saycheese
Member
ah you are probably correct. i have found several articles for this. i will delete my posts. i still think we should have a better firgurehead than Rick Simpson for crying out loud... maybe get rid of the "it maid mah mole disappear!" lady clip off the video...
ford442
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i don't discount the idea since so little research has been done thus far to prove or disprove the effectiveness of THC against cancer..
a little reminder - most pharmaceutical drugs come from nature -
"[FONT=verdana,sans-serf]Around 70 percent of all new drugs introduced in the United States in the past 25 years have been derived from natural products, reports a study published in the March 23 (2007) issue of the Journal of Natural Products. The findings show that despite increasingly sophisticated techniques to design medications in the lab, Mother Nature is still the best drug designer."
"[/FONT][FONT=verdana,sans-serf]Overall, say the researchers, "half of all anti-cancer drugs introduced since the 1940s are either natural products or medicines derived directly from natural products.""[/FONT]
a little reminder - most pharmaceutical drugs come from nature -
"[FONT=verdana,sans-serf]Around 70 percent of all new drugs introduced in the United States in the past 25 years have been derived from natural products, reports a study published in the March 23 (2007) issue of the Journal of Natural Products. The findings show that despite increasingly sophisticated techniques to design medications in the lab, Mother Nature is still the best drug designer."
"[/FONT][FONT=verdana,sans-serf]Overall, say the researchers, "half of all anti-cancer drugs introduced since the 1940s are either natural products or medicines derived directly from natural products.""[/FONT]
bluetick
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I'm sure that hemp oil will kill people. NOT! Nice to show your age there BUDDY. You make absolutely no sense at all. You are saying to not follow others when they jump off of a bridge, but if you had cancer you'd probably follow the ones who take Chemo, wouldn't you? Or would you? Hmmmmm.. It's an alternative that MIGHT work...you don't know and I don't know yet, but one thing I DO KNOW and that is that hemp oil from flowers IS NOT going to kill you.
The poster that stated the FACT about them not being able to patent a natural plant is only the truth. There is no way that pharmaceutical companies would be just kicked to the curb side. You think what you want and I'll think what I want there BUDDY. Now go back and read posts 12, 13,14 and 15.