I purchased the feminzed deal of 12 ww 12 ssh 12 hg and 20 bonus ww seeds along with 12 super crystal 12 armaggedon and 12 jack herer all arrived within 5 days for me here in canada. First germination attempt was 11 ww and 5 hg got 6 ww and all 5 hg to pop out of the ground so that 11 out of 16 so about 66% percent germ rate even though I have had them stored for 4 months . Also of the 2 ww that poped up they did it in 4 days to reach surface and now at 8 days old are both over 2 inches tall and starting there second internode well think you would call it not sure if you count the first set of 2 leaves after the cotelydon leaves as an internode or not.