Care Giver..or Drug Dealer?
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Timmahh
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i have yet to see any more money that I have put into my grow effort. BUT what I have done, is cut those 100.00 a quarters and 300.00 an oz costs and dropped it to around 80.00 a month in electrical costs, and 20.00 a month maintenace, essentially keeping 200.00 of my own money in my pocket instead of in the dispensaries cash till.
You do get mis understood a lot Hic.
You do get mis understood a lot Hic.
bob harris
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The problem is that the dirty care givers are WHY the legislation is in the process of making things more difficult for the good care givers and patients.
bob harris
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So how do you propose the government pay for things?
Timmahh
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no bob. the problem is this current republican guard in office preaches small government, but only if it is 100% molded into their sadistic view of what that is.
everyone else is just fodder for their cause. you just fail to realize it, being being a government mule, its what your paid to do.
One only need to look outside the CannActivist Community to see, our Law and this Act is not the only section of society they are attacking.
everyone else is just fodder for their cause. you just fail to realize it, being being a government mule, its what your paid to do.
One only need to look outside the CannActivist Community to see, our Law and this Act is not the only section of society they are attacking.
jonnynobody
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I wouldn't agree with you on that point guy. The republicans in charge of the state right now never wanted the '08 act passed and they don't like having to eat sour grapes now that their side lost on the issue. There are a lot of interests in the state government that benefits from medical marijuana NOT being available legally to anybody such as law enforcement, the prison industrial complex, and the judicial system - they all lose out on the ability to put medical marijuana patients and caregivers through their meat grinder and sap them of every last penny they have. Right now there are over 100,000 people in the state of michigan that we just took out of the bread line for all of those interest groups and republicans don't like it.
You think too much of these noble civil servants bob; they're not all that noble and not at all honest. This is all about money and control...if you can't see that, you need to get your head out of the sand and look around my friend.
jonnynobody
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BTW bob, to further prove my point, could you please tell me what amendments the republicans are proposing that further clarifies the law in a way that benefits the patients and caregivers in this state?
None of the issues that truly need to be addressed are being addressed. They need to be making amendments on the definition of when a clone becomes a plant and many other issues but they don't want to talk about those things because they have no real interest in helping any of us. These amendments are just obstructionist bullshit that will do nothing to benefit the patient and only gives more power to the government.
None of the issues that truly need to be addressed are being addressed. They need to be making amendments on the definition of when a clone becomes a plant and many other issues but they don't want to talk about those things because they have no real interest in helping any of us. These amendments are just obstructionist bullshit that will do nothing to benefit the patient and only gives more power to the government.
bob harris
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Oh, I fully understand that. I also fully understand that most cg's are about money and control..not all, there are some true care givers.
Cannabis, medical or not, is big business. Big business and large money attract crooks. And when crooks start fighting other crooks...innocent people get caught in the crossfire.
jonnynobody
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Ya know what guy? You're the piece of shit. If you actually knew hic, you'd know how much of a standup guy he is as he actually has true compassion for the patients he is a caregiver for. It sounds to me like you got a bunch of low life hood rats to be a caregiver for in hopes of making bank and when they began treating you like shit, you're surprised? Grow the fuck up dude; your position is severely flawed and the next time you wanna trash somebody's name, trash talk somebody who actually deserves it.
jonnynobody
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Indeed there are some standup people in this movement and I also understand there are scuzzy profiteers like cory and trevor who wants to sign up any hood rat he can find so he can grow more plants and bank. People like that are what hurts our interests and eventually, they'll get weeded out.
bob harris
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Actually, I brought up that point long ago...and there are people fighting for those types of Bills and rulings. Thing is, the loudest voices are those with the most money. And those people right now are far more concerned with gaining control of the med market and making profit, than helping define the "small" points. I've been trying to get individuals to write and call reps for months, and ask for positive bills...no one wants to listen.
Guess we should just trust Timmahh and the CPU to take care of us...yea, right.
Timmahh
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you are a fool bob. anyone here that willingly takes a little time, and goes back and reads through my posts, will clearly see your lies and deceit.
So I do not even need to defend this point. my posts of days gone past does it for me. Please everyone, Take the time and read the words I have made over the last few months here. or anywhere for that matter.
I let them speak for me now.
but honestly, Its you isn't it Joe?
So I do not even need to defend this point. my posts of days gone past does it for me. Please everyone, Take the time and read the words I have made over the last few months here. or anywhere for that matter.
I let them speak for me now.
but honestly, Its you isn't it Joe?
welshsmoker
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wales uk mate.
Cory and trevor
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fuck you and your pals bob and tim. profiteers, you sound like gangsters from the fucking 20's. bob sitting there in his judgement chair drawing fucking disability. if you're going to be a drain on the U.S. at least shut the fuck up and lets us earn a taxable living to pay for your PC that you use to belittle people who want to work and get paid. seriously you assholes are amazing. I don't grow shit for nobody but me bitch so lay off. keep making sure this thing doesn't go mainstream you stupid fucks. keep the people you need to vote for your stupid cause pist at you and your fucking movement. us "profiteers" will just keep on keeping on legal or not like I always have while you little stooge bitches stop consuming pot when you've fractured the community to the point everything gets repealed and you're again a criminal. you're all fucking sickening. you're the same little pussies that had your daddies bitch at coach cuz you didn't get to play first string. maybe you got the wedgies cuz you kept on snitching about bobby not doing his pushups at practice and made us all run laps. see fuckers, you NEED us-I don't fucking need you. my plastic card is nothing to me but an affordable get-out-of-jail-free-on-possession, I do as I do no matter what I'M FREE. take it away-I won't suffer I never did before this thing and nobody thought I owed them a sack for nothing neither. You 3 dickheads make me want to vote it back down. high and mighty stup[id little bitches OMG it's sick. Fuck it I'm changing teams. Pot is bad, you will die from it kids use it as a gateway I'm done I'm taking my pot and going home. profiteer Goddamn you're all so fucking stupid. let me go get on some disability and shit, maybe then I can see how everyone should get shit for free, you get free money why can't I? Am I not sick enough? Not sick enough to smoke, not stupid enough to give it away and not sick enough for that free money either, damn it's terrible to be me....except the fact that I will out live all you fuckers! LOL YEP I'm at that point I'm mocking the sick! Thanks roll it up, now I get it. the movement is all about fucking eachother hard an often and undoing progress. sweet-fuck you all in your dead-from-the-neck up selves. MAke bank-your so obviously not growing a fucking thing! ban me for god's sake maybe then I can finally look away from this retarded car crash of a website and all the judgemental shit heads behind the wheel!
bob harris
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Thanks for you admission. Many peoples cards are just an affordable get out of jail free card. At least you admit you got the card to hide behind while you deal.
The problem is, fucks like you are ruining things for real patients and caregivers.
Yup, I draw disability...because I paid into an insurance policy for 40 years before I got sick. No entitlement...just insurance..it's what insurance is for.
st0wandgrow
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This thread has gone to shit.
Why don't we all try minding our own goddamned business? There is room at this table for everyone. If a caregiver wants to grow 72 plants, and isn't looking out for his patients, then shame on the patient for not booting his ass to the curb and finding a new caregiver. If you're a patient, and you think the plants are yours, and you're entitled to the whole plant come harvest time, then grow the fucking plants yourself. Like Cory and Trevor said .... if a paraplegic can compete in an iron man, then ANYONE can grow pot. No excuses!
If you want to be like hic and give your meds away for free, rock on. That's might noble of you! If you're on the other end of the spectrum and you're juicing patients for $300 a zip, rock on. If the patients aren't happy, then you'll find yourself without patients to caregive for in short order.
We can fight and argue until the cows come home, but each situation is different. I don't care what Timmah, or hic, or gladstoned, or anyone else is doing concerning their grow and their patients. If I'm happy, and my patients are happy, then all is good in my world.
And bob, I agree with some of your points, and disagree with others ..... but DAMN man, we're all crystal clear on where you stand! Unless your goal is to piss every last person off on this site, can you give it a rest already?
Why don't we all try minding our own goddamned business? There is room at this table for everyone. If a caregiver wants to grow 72 plants, and isn't looking out for his patients, then shame on the patient for not booting his ass to the curb and finding a new caregiver. If you're a patient, and you think the plants are yours, and you're entitled to the whole plant come harvest time, then grow the fucking plants yourself. Like Cory and Trevor said .... if a paraplegic can compete in an iron man, then ANYONE can grow pot. No excuses!
If you want to be like hic and give your meds away for free, rock on. That's might noble of you! If you're on the other end of the spectrum and you're juicing patients for $300 a zip, rock on. If the patients aren't happy, then you'll find yourself without patients to caregive for in short order.
We can fight and argue until the cows come home, but each situation is different. I don't care what Timmah, or hic, or gladstoned, or anyone else is doing concerning their grow and their patients. If I'm happy, and my patients are happy, then all is good in my world.
And bob, I agree with some of your points, and disagree with others ..... but DAMN man, we're all crystal clear on where you stand! Unless your goal is to piss every last person off on this site, can you give it a rest already?
fattiemcnuggins
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So the answer to the original post, "caregiver..or drug dealer?....is mind your own business.
hey what was that newer michigan grow site I can't seem to find it anywhere?
hey what was that newer michigan grow site I can't seem to find it anywhere?
SketchyGrower
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YUp, Michigan thread period is toast... everyone I connected with you know how to get a hold of me. Everyone else thanks for Fucking Whining about shit your clearly jealous about..
welshsmoker
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i have had two ops this year, i aint a caregiver i aint med user, im a drug dealer here. sorry bob dont come righteous on me i dont get state aid cause im self employed. and i have paid my fucking taxes.
bob harris
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Your not in Michigan...more power to you. My "righteousness" is directed at the people here ruining the medical law for those it was intended to help.