Dispensaries will take the overages for a decent price. I still dont charge my patients.
Caregiver Seeking New Patients in Crystal Falls, Iron River, Iron Mountain (U.P., MI)
- Thread starter Dankster420
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See above post about dispensaries and other caregivers as CG to CG are legal as are Patient to CG
Dankster420
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oh my god. please read before posting. You are not supposed to have any overages. It is illegal according to the law to sell to outside your 5 patients. You are supposed to only provide to your 5 patients. What you are suggesting to me is to break the law and on top of it sell my patients plants illegally..
Your forum??
Dankster420
Member
also please visit page 2 of my post or to michigan.gov and show me anywhere where it says that then i will gladly offer free meds. please show me where it says it is legal sir. I am open minded and free to visit the topic if one exists..
Dankster420
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my post* oops sorry. Just had a little blackberry kush my bad. p.s. paid 350 for it. will do again gladly. its grown with TLO organics only
Buddy Ganga
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I didn't miss anything man, I don't waste my time reading entire bullshit posts and claims.
I'm one of those that avoid stepping in the pile of shit rather then going through the process of limitation to identify it.
So go ahead and tell me it looks different and smell different and even taste different, and I'll continue on knowing it is what it is.
It's one thing to cover your costs, but what you have clearly stated is your concept of having your patients pay for your start up costs too.
When a "real grower" would already be established with their own equipment.
Next your growing to add in the cost of flying in your mother in law to sit for the plants while your away, or the cost of becoming a patient/caregiver yourself.
And I'll take that bet asshat. Actually grow something and we will meet up and compare.
I'll even bring a few of my "no cost med" patients and you bring a few of your 100% pay as you go patients and we'll all trade notes.(if they have any money left over for gas)
Knowing your posting bullshit and speculating are two completely different things too Skippy.
Like others have already pointed out, you're trying to bullshit the wrong people.
You don't care and your not a giver, so calling you a caregiver would be an oxymoron.
A papered dealer at best.
Buddy Ganga
Active Member
LMAO!!!! That law is specifically written for "non" qualifying patient caregivers, and any caregiver can transfer meds to other caregivers to assist them in obtaining meds for their own patients. Since Dispensaries are owned and operated by caregivers/patience the transfer are completely legit.
If in fact a person is a "qualifying patient" and caregiver, there are no limits to who they can transfer to, as long as they are legitimate card holders.
They can even be card holders from other states Skippy..
Once again, your trying to bullshit the wrong people.
Dankster420
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Dankster420
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p.s. by law if you have a dispensary or are growing with a friend or family member... you arent even supposed to take care of each others plants. Thats right. If I have a wife im not allowed to watch her plants if she goes out of town. I didnt write the laws but i do intend to follow them. The law is loosely worded and misunderstood a lot. But one thing i can assure you is that unless you are looking for a jail cell or cheese in a mousetrap nothing in america besides air is free. Especially medication that is not covered federally. The best I can do is offer the best possible cost possible for the best medicine. And "flying in" my non-existing mother in law would be illegal as well considering its illegal to watch someone elses plants.
a mongo frog
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after reading much of the post, i like what the op is about. i dont give a fuck about the michigan laws or the lawyers hes got or the nutrient he uses(cuz its not the best). if a guy wants to make a few dollars doing what he wants to do,and he dosent think he going to get in trouble then do it. its either grow some smoke or male prostitution, and growing some smoke might be less painfull.
Dankster420
Member
oh and finally i cant believe i missed this. Because if you truly believe you are correct and im wrong than show some balls. Give me a contact in private messege of one of your patients.. Let me call and explain to them the reason they recieve free meds from you is because you sell their remaining plants to others. Let me also ask them if they knew that their plants were being sold? Did they ever find out that they couldnt get meds from you because it wasnt avaliable? And do you charge them beyond 1 or 2 ounces a month? I honestly dont believe that your patients have any clue what you are actually doing with their papers, and their their plants. And I also feel that if they were educated, and explained this information, and saw my meds, that they would gladly switch services if they were geographically able to do so.
Dankster420
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to amongo frog
lol i can agree that advanced nutrients are not the best nutrients avaliable overall, as True LIving Organics are the best in my opinion as well as Soma, if youve ever read his works. I am trying to further educate myself on TLO as its a newer technique and find out what the best combinations and ingredients are before i use them. However I would argue all day that advanced nutrients are the BEST synthetic nutrients avaliable when used as a full set (all packages together as instructed) today. BTW, Unfortunately if you are trying to stay completely legal and out of jail, then you should consider an attorney because they are paid to know the answers to your questions, and all you ever have to do is shut up when necessary.
lol i can agree that advanced nutrients are not the best nutrients avaliable overall, as True LIving Organics are the best in my opinion as well as Soma, if youve ever read his works. I am trying to further educate myself on TLO as its a newer technique and find out what the best combinations and ingredients are before i use them. However I would argue all day that advanced nutrients are the BEST synthetic nutrients avaliable when used as a full set (all packages together as instructed) today. BTW, Unfortunately if you are trying to stay completely legal and out of jail, then you should consider an attorney because they are paid to know the answers to your questions, and all you ever have to do is shut up when necessary.
mxyz250newb
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Dankster420 which bulbs u use during flower?
a mongo frog
Well-Known Member
i dont need a lawyer cuz im not in your line of work. im a H&G user, and i add rhyno skin at 1/2 dose, and i use a shit load of teas through out my grows. H&G is the best and has the best base nuitrient. and has a great foilar spray.
Dankster420
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lol I didnt mean you personally need a lawyer, however even as a grower or patient I would still recommend it. I dont mean pay a lawyer monthly, but find someone you know and trust. It never hurts to have someone you can call on in case something ever happens, even if its a mistake. Im sure there are plently of people who are in jail because of a simple misunderstanding.
Rhino Skin is an AN product. And heres where I will argue. If you have the money, buy a full lineup of HG products. I assure you they are also superior products from most. Then buy the full lineup of AN products. I know its expensive so if you have a few free hrs maybe looking online is a better choice. With the full lineup, compare percents, nutrient amounts, and the values of each according to marijuana's genetic needs as a plant. I am willing to bet that AN has every nutrient that HG does and goes above and beyond. Of course if i buy 5 bottles of AN and 5 bottles of HG ill get different results, also dependant on the kinds they are. I mean full set comparison.
Vegging Light: T5 4 bulb 2' light
Flowering Light(s):
1000w Sunleaves OptiLUME 140,000 Lumens, SOHP109
and 400w HPS light (i forgot but i believe hortilux) and an MH same i believe.
In research I have found that in last 2 weeks using MH WITHOUT GLASS between plants and light allows UV to reach plants naturally rising their THC levels for defense. Will be experimenting possibly in the future with this method.
P.S. My patients can also ask for specific strains to be grown for them, and I would be happy to assist with any needs. I understand certain strains may offer you better relief than others.
Rhino Skin is an AN product. And heres where I will argue. If you have the money, buy a full lineup of HG products. I assure you they are also superior products from most. Then buy the full lineup of AN products. I know its expensive so if you have a few free hrs maybe looking online is a better choice. With the full lineup, compare percents, nutrient amounts, and the values of each according to marijuana's genetic needs as a plant. I am willing to bet that AN has every nutrient that HG does and goes above and beyond. Of course if i buy 5 bottles of AN and 5 bottles of HG ill get different results, also dependant on the kinds they are. I mean full set comparison.
Vegging Light: T5 4 bulb 2' light
Flowering Light(s):
1000w Sunleaves OptiLUME 140,000 Lumens, SOHP109
and 400w HPS light (i forgot but i believe hortilux) and an MH same i believe.
In research I have found that in last 2 weeks using MH WITHOUT GLASS between plants and light allows UV to reach plants naturally rising their THC levels for defense. Will be experimenting possibly in the future with this method.
P.S. My patients can also ask for specific strains to be grown for them, and I would be happy to assist with any needs. I understand certain strains may offer you better relief than others.
a mongo frog
Well-Known Member
Dankster,ill bet if u buy the whole H&G line and use teas regularly,your product will be 10 times better. not sayin your meds are bad, cuz i believe u when u say your product is good. but there is a ton of great smoke on the market.
Buddy Ganga
Active Member
You still missed it.
I said we would "all meet up" and compare notes and meds.;I
'm guessing you'll need about 14 weeks since this is your first grow and all.
I threw in an extra week for you to plug in all the cords.
And hell yes my patients know I "transfer" my overages to the local dispensaries, it's where we met, and the reason they requested me as a caregiver.
My quality and dependability have been more than proven.
We even try to get together at least once a month for a cook out at my place.(yes, I even welcome them in my home)
They know exactly what I'm growing, and when it's harvesting and can see the grow any time they want.
And I'm sure they wouldn't want me to get in trouble for having more then a Mich pound and lose my card.
Or have you not considered that part of it yet ?
Do you plan on flushing any overages you may be able to achieve ?
Is that what your attorney suggested you do with them, "get rid of the evidence"?
And as far as running out goes, I'm in a group of qualified growers and we insure each others grows and patient agreements.
So no patient is ever left searching for quality meds or trying to smoke excuses.
I said we would "all meet up" and compare notes and meds.;I
'm guessing you'll need about 14 weeks since this is your first grow and all.
I threw in an extra week for you to plug in all the cords.
And hell yes my patients know I "transfer" my overages to the local dispensaries, it's where we met, and the reason they requested me as a caregiver.
My quality and dependability have been more than proven.
We even try to get together at least once a month for a cook out at my place.(yes, I even welcome them in my home)
They know exactly what I'm growing, and when it's harvesting and can see the grow any time they want.
And I'm sure they wouldn't want me to get in trouble for having more then a Mich pound and lose my card.
Or have you not considered that part of it yet ?
Do you plan on flushing any overages you may be able to achieve ?
Is that what your attorney suggested you do with them, "get rid of the evidence"?
And as far as running out goes, I'm in a group of qualified growers and we insure each others grows and patient agreements.
So no patient is ever left searching for quality meds or trying to smoke excuses.
Dankster420
Member
Well, there are a lot of growers who have different companies that they swear by. I just feel that no other company invests as much as AN. Any product of theirs you can search online and find entire articles about what they use why they use it and why its the best with facts. When i look at most other companies its 2 paragraphs and they dont offer too much useful explanation.
And Buddy Ganja, again, if you read my post you would know that i dont really want to know your opinion further unless you can provide me some facts from the source. michigan.gov, the LARA site, whatever. I dont really care how YOU and your "friends" grow or handle your business. Heres another thing. I dont know where you live but i only have one dispensary in my area and I am actually a member. They are not looking for "overages" because I asked and they also explained that there shouldnt be any extra. So until i find some patients I cannot legally start growing yet. May be more than 14 weeks at this point thank you. Also, I never will have a pound over my limit because I know will know how much they need and grow accordingly. The only suggestion I can offer you with overages is to make medibles because if you look online they explain that marijuana is limit to 2.5 oz of leaf or flower, or the combination of the two. There is no said limit on edibles. My understanding is if you have too much, which you shouldnt if you can manage your rotations properly, then bake cookies and give them freely to your patients. Mmmm cookies. And you can let people into your house? You just started a revolution in my mind. Here I was... so sure that homes were only meant as decorations. And you mean to tell me I can talk to my patients and make caregiver/patient relationships? NO WAY!!! I was soooo sure that I can only provide them with earths peace syrum. Thank you so much. I really really mean it
And Buddy Ganja, again, if you read my post you would know that i dont really want to know your opinion further unless you can provide me some facts from the source. michigan.gov, the LARA site, whatever. I dont really care how YOU and your "friends" grow or handle your business. Heres another thing. I dont know where you live but i only have one dispensary in my area and I am actually a member. They are not looking for "overages" because I asked and they also explained that there shouldnt be any extra. So until i find some patients I cannot legally start growing yet. May be more than 14 weeks at this point thank you. Also, I never will have a pound over my limit because I know will know how much they need and grow accordingly. The only suggestion I can offer you with overages is to make medibles because if you look online they explain that marijuana is limit to 2.5 oz of leaf or flower, or the combination of the two. There is no said limit on edibles. My understanding is if you have too much, which you shouldnt if you can manage your rotations properly, then bake cookies and give them freely to your patients. Mmmm cookies. And you can let people into your house? You just started a revolution in my mind. Here I was... so sure that homes were only meant as decorations. And you mean to tell me I can talk to my patients and make caregiver/patient relationships? NO WAY!!! I was soooo sure that I can only provide them with earths peace syrum. Thank you so much. I really really mean it
Is this guy still going on? HAHAHA. You wanna talk about breaking the law!! Lets say you are doing 1 patient.... and lets say your a patient..... your allowed 5 oz. You wanna do a 4 plant rotation. You will be braking the law if you keep overages..... I still think its all gray, go ask your little lawyer buddy and if you tell me patient to patient is illegul I know your full of shit. I think your confusing Compensation and Donating..... You can accept money for your donations, maybe not as much money as you would like but you can only give what you can its like going to church and you give to the donation tray.... I think you would get in more trouble having pounds sitting around the house the you would donating it to other patients. Shit I grew some stuff that I know for a fact would compare to anything you got. Anyone can take care of a plant... Its not hard! PATIENTS there are caregivers that offer free meds. If you deal with people like this, your paying everything for this guy to live. So please think about it b4 you take that step in making this man your caregiver.
You know what as a patient and growing for another patient, ( I would be growing for myself already so no EXTRA cost if your doing a 4 plant cycle) I guess if I could smoke for free I would be happy to give meds away for free knowing I am helping out a person who needs there medication. Up to a point its free, if your smoke is as good as you say they will be back. I would smoke over a oz a week if the smoke is awesome, I love good smoke! If your law states you cant sell controlled substances then how can you sell it to your patients? Wouldnt this be breaking the law? Oh I guess this is where the word DONATIONS come in to play.... No where in the LAW does it state you cant accept donations...
You know what as a patient and growing for another patient, ( I would be growing for myself already so no EXTRA cost if your doing a 4 plant cycle) I guess if I could smoke for free I would be happy to give meds away for free knowing I am helping out a person who needs there medication. Up to a point its free, if your smoke is as good as you say they will be back. I would smoke over a oz a week if the smoke is awesome, I love good smoke! If your law states you cant sell controlled substances then how can you sell it to your patients? Wouldnt this be breaking the law? Oh I guess this is where the word DONATIONS come in to play.... No where in the LAW does it state you cant accept donations...