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fourtwentychat

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I've seen home healthcare type advertisements before, where nurses or even non-healthcare personal provide in-home living assistance to the elderly or disabled. In exchange, rent is not charged (I'm not sure if these workers are still also paid salary, but I do know that I've seen ads, which state that rent is not charged.

My question is: Assuming a person was to move to a medical marijuana legal state, is there any law (or whatever) that would prohibit this type of agreement? That is, caregiver services would be exchanged for rent for some agreed period of time - while providing the knowledge to setup and successfully complete a first cycle - essentially providing one-on-one in-house training.

Under the right circumstances the above situation could be an ideal win-win situation for both parties involved, especially if the caregiver is also able to provide other valuable services to help (related or non-related to caregiver services).
 
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T.H.Cammo

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That's an intrigueing idea! Basically the Patient would be providing free "Room & Board" to the Caregiver, in exchange for his knowledge and duties as a "Live-in Ganga Guru"! Here, in California, a "MM Caregiver" (not neccesarily a "MM Patient" theirself) can be "Officially Authorized" by the State. They are basically "Certified", with an I.D. card and everything - "Legit!".

If I'm not mistaken, a MM Caregiver is allowed to represent "several" Patients (not sure of just how many). If a Caregiver is providing for, let's say, 6 Patients (all properly documented, of course), he is allowed to grow 6 times whatever the "legal limit" is and distribute the "meds" to the Patients. As long as all this activity takes place within a single county, no laws are broken (except, of course, Federal law - which has agreed to "exempt" legitimate "MM Users"). I think there is even some authorization of "Communal Grows", where several Patients can grow together in a "big ass garden".

I don't know if any of this information will be usefull to you, I hope so! But I tend to think that a "Legitimate Live-in Caregiver" would be perfectly legal. I'm not a "Card Carrying MM User", so I may not understand all the legal "Ins and Outs" correctly - but that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
 
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fourtwentychat

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Thanks for the valuable information.

About the "communal grow" comment...it then sounds like it would also be perfectly acceptable for both the caregiver and caregivee to each grow their allowed number (assuming both were MM cardholders) at the same location, correct? Would the issue about room and board have any relevance to whether or not this would be permitted?

Also, what did you mean by "Legitimate Live-in Caregiver." What might be an example of an illegitimate caregiver?

PS Does the subject seem like a win-win situation or am I slightly biased?
 
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pabloesqobar

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fourtwentychat said:
I've seen home healthcare type advertisements before, where nurses or even non-healthcare personal provide in-home living assistance to the elderly or disabled. In exchange, rent is not charged (I'm not sure if these workers are still also paid salary, but I do know that I've seen ads, which state that rent is not charged.

My question is: Assuming a person was to move to a medical marijuana legal state, is there any law (or whatever) that would prohibit this type of agreement? That is, caregiver services would be exchanged for rent for some agreed period of time - while providing the knowledge to setup and successfully complete a first cycle - essentially providing one-on-one in-house training.

Under the right circumstances the above situation could be an ideal win-win situation for both parties involved, especially if the caregiver is also able to provide other valuable services to help (related or non-related to caregiver services).
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I'm pretty sure that even though some of those folks do not have any licensing, they work for a company that is required to have licensing, permits, insurance, etc which are required to hold oneself out as an authorized health care provider. Otherwise, no insurance company would cover it. Maybe I'm looking at this too simply. But: 1) If you both have your MMJ cards in CA, and 2) you and this person decide to enter into a contractual arrangement regarding providing marijuana cultivation consultations, and the compensation for those services, then I don't see a problem.

This assumes that you aren't holding yourself out as (or acting as) any kind of caregiver or health care provider which requires some type of licensing which you don't possess. Or undertaking any other type of activity that would otherwise run afoul of the law.

Otherwise, it seems like a legal contractual arrangement that is none of the State's business.
 
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iscrog4food

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You could do that for sure (at least here in Colorado) and there are many people that would probably take you up on it (cant count how many 60+ year olds i have seen in the hydro shop complaining about killing plants. THe only issue you would run into is the fact that if you help them grow you can be prosecuted under RICO act since technically it is conspiring to break federal law. It is unlikely that you would get prosecuted but it may keep you from modeling a business on this premise.
 
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