Carl Sagan (AKA my greatest hero) on Marijuana.

Tym

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(This account was written in 1969 for publication in Marijuana Reconsidered (1971). Sagan was in his mid-thirties at that time. He continued to use cannabis for the rest of his life.)

…Initially I was unwilling to partake, but the apparent euphoria that cannabis produced and the fact that there was no physiological addiction to the plant eventually persuaded me to try… I have smoked occasionally and enjoyed it thoroughly. It amplifies torpid sensibilities and produces what to me are even more interesting effects…

The cannabis experience has greatly improved my appreciation for art, a subject which I had never much appreciated before…

A very similar improvement in my appreciation of music has occurred with cannabis. For the first time I have been able to hear the separate parts of a three-part harmony and the richness of the counterpoint…

The enjoyment of food is amplified; tastes and aromas emerge that for some reason we ordinarily seem to be too busy to notice… Cannabis also enhances the enjoyment of sex…

I do not consider myself a religious person in the usual sense, but there is a religious aspect to some highs. The heightened sensitivity in all areas gives me a feeling of communion with my surroundings, both animate and inanimate…

When I'm high I can penetrate into the past, recall childhood memories, friends, relatives, playthings, streets, smells, sounds, and tastes from a vanished era. I can reconstruct the actual occurrences in childhood events only half understood at the time…

I find that most of the insights I achieve when high are into social issues, an area of creative scholarship very different from the one I am generally known for. I can remember one occasion, taking a shower with my wife while high, in which I had an idea on the origins and invalidities of racism in terms of gaussian distribution curves. It was a point obvious in a way, but rarely talked about. I drew the curves in soap on the shower wall, and went to write the idea down. One idea led to another, and at the end of about an hour of extremely hard work I found I had written eleven short essays on a wide range of social, political, philosophical, and human biological topics. Because of problems of space, I can't go into the details of these essays, but from all external signs, such as public reactions and expert commentary, they seem to contain valid insights. I have used them in university commencement addresses, public lectures, and in my books.

… I am convinced that there are genuine and valid levels of perception available with cannabis (and probably with other drugs) which are, through the defects of our society and our educational system, unavailable to us without such drugs…

… If you're high and your child is calling, you can respond about as capably as you usually do. I don't advocate driving when high on cannabis, but I can tell you from personal experience that it certainly can be done. My high is always reflective, peaceable, intellectually exciting, and sociable, unlike most alcohol highs, and there is never a hangover…

… the illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world.
 

Padawanbater2

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I think it would take a lot more than him simply being alive...

...now if he were president...

Sagan is one of my biggest heroes too Tym.
 

Tym

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sure am. If I can't have a discussion without having him insult me than I will spam the crap out of everything he posts.
When I post my disagreements and full logical refutations of your illogical and unfounded beliefs, I am not insulting you..

I am not attacking you, I'm attacking lies, falsehoods and propaganda. If you don't like me refuting the unproven claims you make that have no evidence to support them, don't make the claims.
It's that simple.
 

theloadeddragon

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my eyes are red and irritated..... hightened sensitivity indeed. Certain social awarenesses.... sure did have a way with words and clear cut perspective.

Would you like a popcycle? They are really nice. Ice cold to the tip of the tongue, a chilly numbness before a rush of sweetness. And the popcycles are multi-colored too, so you can turn your tongue different colors as you finish your popcycle. Just hop in my Red Ryder, and I will give you one. We can swing on my swing right down the street, and laugh and play all day. Until the sun comes down. Then one more popcycle, and I will see you next time.

Would you like a popcycle?
 

Tym

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my eyes are red and irritated..... hightened sensitivity indeed. Certain social awarenesses.... sure did have a way with words and clear cut perspective.

Would you like a popcycle? They are really nice. Ice cold to the tip of the tongue, a chilly numbness before a rush of sweetness. And the popcycles are multi-colored too, so you can turn your tongue different colors as you finish your popcycle. Just hop in my Red Ryder, and I will give you one. We can swing on my swing right down the street, and laugh and play all day. Until the sun comes down. Then one more popcycle, and I will see you next time.

Would you like a popcycle?
Hehehe, awesome.. I love the "a chilly numbness before a rush of sweetness" part.. A+!!
 

crackerboy

Active Member
When I post my disagreements and full logical refutations of your illogical and unfounded beliefs, I am not insulting you..

I am not attacking you, I'm attacking lies, falsehoods and propaganda. If you don't like me refuting the unproven claims you make that have no evidence to support them, don't make the claims.
It's that simple.

What unproven claims? you mean the thread where I asked people to post all the different apocalyptic stories and myths. I was not claiming anything. Just bored and wanted to see how many different version there are. So what claims did you feel needed to be refuted. Your just an intolerant troll.
 

theloadeddragon

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in our avatars...... my one calyx is bigger than your whole Cola..... Gotta love technology.

I think the demise of humanity and this earth is hopefully just long and well weathered......
 

Tym

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What unproven claims? you mean the thread where I asked people to post all the different apocalyptic stories and myths. I was not claiming anything. Just bored and wanted to see how many different version there are. So what claims did you feel needed to be refuted. Your just an intolerant troll.
Yes, and I refuted the idea of apocalyptic claims. Did you even read my post? I'm guessing you didn't.
My question still stands.. Where are these insults? Where is the text of me attacking you personally?
 

Heisenberg

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Yes, and I refuted the idea of apocalyptic claims. Did you even read my post? I'm guessing you didn't.
My question still stands.. Where are these insults? Where is the text of me attacking you personally?
Perhaps he blames you for the injuries he's received while jamming his own foot into his mouth.
 
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