i agree with the hands on approach i think an iding is the only way to go, i was a little terror out fighting and causing trouble when i was younger, would i steal? NO because i knew my old man would have given me a real beating for it . i think children need a little fear to help keep them on the straight and narrow after all if there's no real consequences why would they stop being naughty? i had plenty of idings when i was younger for being naughty and i still am no angel but i knew where the line was and knew that if i crossed it the police etc were the least of my worries my only concern was the old man and i know that the idings i had were to keep me on the right path and am extremely greatfull i had those idings