CFL Homemade Closet Grow

StUpId HiGh PaNdA

Active Member
alright everyone. Havent updated in 2 weeks, but im not gonna do a pic update today. I have a couple questions that i never really hear anything about. First is, when vegging, say your trying to grow as quick as possible w/o fem seeds or a quick autoflower(a 3months time period), your 4 weeks into veg, and you wanna switch to flower, can you just switch straight to flower, or do you have to put girls through a transition week.

I use this table from GH http://www.generalhydroponics.com/calculator/index.html I found it on RIU

i use GH Flora series, ann i found a feeding chart on their site, and it has 1 seedling week, 1 mid growth week, 3 grow weeks, 1 transition week, 4 flower weeks, 1 ripen week. Is the transition week necessary, or could i skip it??

Also burnt plant stems?? my light fell on P2 and burnt 3 of the lower stems. they looked really bad when i found...turned white or a pinkish white color where it touch the light. I tied them up to keep the colas at top. They're straight up as much as possible, but the stems dont seem to be healing...or changing back to green.? This happened last monday i believe. the parts above the burnt stem and the colas on them are still growing and havent changeed much other then some top leaves burnt.

SO my question is, should i just chop those branches/colas off, or leave them be and let her grow as she is, or could she become to stressed from those burns during growth and hermie??

I Appreciate the replies. Pic update on the 7th or the 8th. Keep burnin' Peace
 

StUpId HiGh PaNdA

Active Member
ok everyone...heres that update. day 53. day 9 of flowering.
Well to be honest, i think they all turned males. I dont see any pistols forming at all, only these balls. I dont know if pistols will grow from them shortly, but yea idk. The only one that doesnt have any of this stuff yet (from what i can see), if P4. Check the pics and lemme know what you all think. I hope pistols will grow...also, ,the root systems, P2 & P4 are entangled together and P1 & P3 are also entangled. Help would be greatly appreciated. cant find any similar info for this.
P1
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P2
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P3
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P4
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bigrake

Well-Known Member
They haven't reached maturity yet, when you get interchangeable leafs you'll see sex. I don't know what you could do about the roots but cut and you don't want to do that. Lol. I'll let someone else help you with that... good luck
 

OhhOkay

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By interchangeable, I suppose you could say "alternating nodes". Some people believe that plants are mature enough to start flowering when the nodes growing off the sides of the stem are offset..meaning that the branches don't grow directly across from each other. I've seen plants put into flower before they have alternating nodes before though.. and they flowered and produced just fine - alternating nodes eventually happened during flowering anyways. I'll post an example. Note: the alternating branches don't have to be that far apart; the space up the branch could just be a few centimeters up higher/lower than the branch across from it. Also, P1 P2 and P3 do look like males to me. I seem to have a little hope for p4 though.. just my opinion and gut feeling. Being that your in the second week of flowering (I believe?), I would separate the possible males from the possible female.. but I wouldn't kill them just yet.. just in case they are hermie and don't forget you can make them into hash. Protect the possible female from them though.. males will develop quicker and you don't want pollination which can happen easily in the same room. Seeing and you probably don't have a separate room to house the (possible) males you.. if you don't want to go through the hassle of bagging up balls then you may wanna go ahead and whack them. Give it a few days.. but not too much longer. Alternating nodes example: http://forum.grasscity.com/photopost/data/500/nodes.JPG
 

StUpId HiGh PaNdA

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aight brotha, much thanks for the clarifications. yes they are in second week of flower. no i do not have anywhere to put the males.

any suggestions on what else to do with males?? you say i can make hash, how much longer would they need to grow before i could do that?, or if i do just whack em, what should i do about the roots? p2 and p4 roots are entangled, and basically impossible to untangle....should i cut p2's roots away from p4's roots without getting to close to p4s and stressing it?
 

OhhOkay

Member
Hmm, that's right. I'd make hash with it as you can still get a pretty good high from male hash if made correctly. Some people wait until harvest time to make hash, or until some of the pollen sacks open.. but of course you don't want to do that. I'd still wait a day are two to fully check for males. As far as the roots go, I'd cut p2 away from p4, trying to do as little damage as possible to p4. If you can just lightly tug and the roots to pull as much away as gently as possible. But since p2 seems to have male characteristics I wouldn't worry about getting to rough with his side of the roots. Wear some latex gloves if you touch the roots. And if you're too worried about stressing possibly your only female (who wouldn't) then I'd just go ahead and clearly cut p2's roots away from p4 instead of trying to gently pull them away.
 

StUpId HiGh PaNdA

Active Member
hello everyone. A quick update while the girls are sleeping before i change the water. I did say girl(s). looks like p1 and p4 and both girls. Im really glad to see that personally. I've been keeping an eye on all the colas to make sure none hermie or anything like that. Their doing good. p1 is quite a bit smaller then p4 but i think cause its a different strain which is always find. The reflector i had made for them all doesnt really get light to p1 in front, so i moved a light and taped it to the wall, its doing its jobs for one light.

My next grow though, i was thinking about doing a 12/12 from seed hydro grow. same system and setup as this grow only 12/12 throughout. Any opinions on the yeild difference from a veg to flower and a full flower grow?? Would i need any 65k bulbs or could i just stick with the 27k's i have??

An update with pics on current grow wehn i change water. may be later tonight or tomorrow morning. thanks for a lot of help all who contributed their skills/opinions.
 

OhhOkay

Member
Glad to see that p4 did in fact turn out to be female as well as to see the addition of p1.

I have been trying to find several 12/12 grows to compare to veg-flower grows but haven't really looked too much into it. Some people seem to have better luck with it, but it probably wouldn't hurt to try. I've seen straight 12/12 grows but some people believe that the overall yield is more worth it to have at least a week-2 week veg from sprout. I was thinking of having an experiment conducted. Maybe 3 - one month veg; 3 - two week veg; and 3 no veg plants under same basic conditions and seeing the outcome. If anyone knows of an experiment conducted similar to this, please link it.

As far as lights go from 12/12 all the way - you might as well throw in a few 65k's to the 27's. Just make sure you have more 27's. Maybe just me, but I like to have a mixed spectrum to possibly support more of a growth factor. Not sure how well it works.. but surely it doesn't hurt. I've heard of people keeping a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio on 27k to 65k lights during 12/12.
 
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