UserFriendly
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You're not exactly top of the food chain around here bro.
CFL vs HPS penetration
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Brick Top
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Yes! What was I thinking?
Clearly, this image explains it all:
You are a true legend in your own mind.
It must be horrible to go through life with such a massive inferiority complex that you need to continually do everything you possibly can to stroke your own ego, like making moronic pics like you used, due to the deep seated desperation you suffer from to attempt to elevate yourself in the eyes of unknown strangers.
TeaTreeOil
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I really just want to help people grow better. In spite of all the morons on RIU.
There seems to be no logic, reason, science, or rationality that gets through to some people. I accept that.
There seems to be no logic, reason, science, or rationality that gets through to some people. I accept that.
Brick Top
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You're not exactly top of the food chain around here bro.
I am curious, how many decades of growing experience do you have under your belt? Close to four maybe? Are you a part owner of a nursery where it is at least somewhat important that you need to know something about how things grow? Do you by chance happen to have several, say maybe four, family members with degrees in botany to rely on for plant information?
Who here can say they do? When asked I can raise my hand. Can you? Can TreeSap?
TeaTreeOil
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Yea, Pricktop, sure you do.
You da tops of pricks anyway!
You da tops of pricks anyway!
UserFriendly
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I win!
relativeood
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Wow you don't have to be that mean!
He is just an animator that obviously enjoys the fast paced, easy to find research on the internet more thrilling then the slow going proven research from growing yourself.
You've got to know when you've already won the fight.
BTW MAD PROPS TO TEATREEOIL FOR LISTENING TO UNDERWORLD!
TeaTreeOil
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I've been growing for over two decades. Not that it matters.
Horticulture is a science. Not voodoo.
Any dumb ass can do it, given they're spoon fed to a sufficient degree. (which is uhm... err... explains this forum!)
Horticulture is a science. Not voodoo.
Any dumb ass can do it, given they're spoon fed to a sufficient degree. (which is uhm... err... explains this forum!)
Greyskull
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i want to see results not charts and graphs and animations. results speak louder than words.
and again cfls grow pot. no disproving it - fact.
cfls better than hid when the dried buds hit the scales??? i am waiting....
TeaTreeOil
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Leaves have the highest trasmission in the green-yellow spectrum. HPS is pretty much entirely within this.
Obviously it's going to transmit through leaves better.
Check my thread(in sig). I have charts on this. The plant only utilizes 20%(absorbs 80%, 60% is uselessly absorbed, 20% is reflected) of this transmissive area.
I'm using CFL's just because...
You can pick them up anywhere.
They are cheap to buy.
Low heat (almost 0 when a fan is near by).
You can plug them into a standard socket.
HPS, I agree are way better. But buying them here is like 250euro for 400watt and all the bits that go with it.
And I guess it depends on how much your looking for in your harvest. I'd like just enough for my personal smoke. Just in case I get caught. I wouldn't want to have jars with oz and oz everywhere. And 5 foot plants. lol
So I guess what I'm saying is it depends on what suits you.
I'd love a 60inch TV, but my 37inch will do. My living room isn't big enough for a 60inch. But I can get the same effect if I sit a little closer...
Seemorebuds' book Buds for less, He uses 6 x42watt CFL's and gets 8oz harvested on day 69. He flowers after only 16 days. He says that when using CFL's flower them when they are small. You will get better use of the poor CFL lumens.
Heres a pic of a few of his buds with CFL's. Not small
You can pick them up anywhere.
They are cheap to buy.
Low heat (almost 0 when a fan is near by).
You can plug them into a standard socket.
HPS, I agree are way better. But buying them here is like 250euro for 400watt and all the bits that go with it.
And I guess it depends on how much your looking for in your harvest. I'd like just enough for my personal smoke. Just in case I get caught. I wouldn't want to have jars with oz and oz everywhere. And 5 foot plants. lol
So I guess what I'm saying is it depends on what suits you.
I'd love a 60inch TV, but my 37inch will do. My living room isn't big enough for a 60inch. But I can get the same effect if I sit a little closer...
Seemorebuds' book Buds for less, He uses 6 x42watt CFL's and gets 8oz harvested on day 69. He flowers after only 16 days. He says that when using CFL's flower them when they are small. You will get better use of the poor CFL lumens.
Heres a pic of a few of his buds with CFL's. Not small
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TeaTreeOil
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That electromagnetic waves carry energy with them is no surprise when you recall that they are composed of electric and magnetic fields, each of which has an associated energy density. For example, the energy density of an electric field is magnitude E. The magnetic energy density of a magnetic field of magnitude B. And c is the speed of light.
Such that: E = cB. Which specifies the ratio E/B = c.
And, as we expand from this, we get to your point:
pressure = Intensity / c
Commonly referred to as radiation pressure(force per area).
Also written as momentum, p, and total energy absorbed U, and c, the speed of light:
p = U/c
What shit would you like to discuss?
Such that: E = cB. Which specifies the ratio E/B = c.
And, as we expand from this, we get to your point:
pressure = Intensity / c
Commonly referred to as radiation pressure(force per area).
Also written as momentum, p, and total energy absorbed U, and c, the speed of light:
p = U/c
What shit would you like to discuss?
Greyskull
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exactly....
Have you had a smoke today yet. I couldn't write in such detail after a smoke. Then again I couldn't sober either! lol
AeroKing
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Oh, look he knows how to use Wiki! Good Job!
I understand radiant pressure. I didn't make any implication that I needed a formula.
That was an incredibly idiotic response and a blatant attempt to make yourself seem smarter.
I was obviously challenging your "penetration" view as you were missing a key variable.
You think you can simplify everything to a formula or a chart, but you're missing variables.
If you can't comment on the topics being thrown at you, bow down and admit that YOU DON'T KNOW!
You're losing credibility quickly.
I understand radiant pressure. I didn't make any implication that I needed a formula.
That was an incredibly idiotic response and a blatant attempt to make yourself seem smarter.
I was obviously challenging your "penetration" view as you were missing a key variable.
You think you can simplify everything to a formula or a chart, but you're missing variables.
If you can't comment on the topics being thrown at you, bow down and admit that YOU DON'T KNOW!
You're losing credibility quickly.
9inch bigbud
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I find that hard to believe coming from someone who thinks that air exchange in the grow room is only needed if you use HPS lights and its only needed to cool the room.
i.e you dont need to use extractor fans if you use CFL or LED lights.
Brick Top
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I have always believed that once you get someone down it is not at all unreasonable to kick them a few times. When you insist on bringing something on yourself you deserve what you get, you earned it.
Ignorance not only runs through some of these forums, it practically gallops and TreeSap is galloping his way through this thread at full speed.
Brick Top
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That is correct and that is why I listen and learn from family members with degrees in botany and read and learn from other people with degrees in botany and precisely why I do not pay heed to what people write who rely on Wiki and on myths and urban legends and the opinions of others who are equally as dim as they themselves are.
But what do I know? After all I have only been doing since decades before most people on this site were nothing more than the gleam in the eyes of two strangers at a Guns & Roses concert.