Charris/Live Resin!

Cannakis: you say :

"I try to leave Just a tiny bit of solvent to help collect it all. Then on wax paper in gas oven at like 200 monitoring and opening every few minutes until it bubbles up like crazy and falls down."

I hope you mean parchment paper not wax paper. If you are using wax paper, you are getting petroleum wax in your product. Secondly, regarding the color of the final product, assuming there is no chlorophyll, the older the material is you are extracting from, the darker brown it will turn out.

hyroot said:

I didn't make that bho. My buddy did. He distills butane. Blasts through a closed loop system with chillers. Vacuum purges in vacuum ovens for days. He uses high end lab grade butane that he gets by the gallon.


I personally make ice water hash / bubble hash / ice wax and rosin and do dry sift.

He's trying to get me to head up the organic dept. Of his new company.

My stuff

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Dude! You can't do that to me now you e got my mind racing on how I ca. Distilled my own butane and get vacuum ovens! Insanity!
http://m.harborfreight.com/air-vacuum-pump-with-r134a-and-r12-connectors-96677.html What about this pump? 20psi enough?

Have you used dry ice? What's your average yield?

skepler said:

Cannakis: you say :

"I try to leave Just a tiny bit of solvent to help collect it all. Then on wax paper in gas oven at like 200 monitoring and opening every few minutes until it bubbles up like crazy and falls down."

I hope you mean parchment paper not wax paper. If you are using wax paper, you are getting petroleum wax in your product. Secondly, regarding the color of the final product, assuming there is no chlorophyll, the older the material is you are extracting from, the darker brown it will turn out.

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Haha I did Not realize that! Thanks! Thank GOD I got parchment.!

hyroot said:

I didn't make that bho. My buddy did. He distills butane. Blasts through a closed loop system with chillers. Vacuum purges in vacuum ovens for days. He uses high end lab grade butane that he gets by the gallon.


I personally make ice water hash / bubble hash / ice wax and rosin and do dry sift.

He's trying to get me to head up the organic dept. Of his new company.

My stuff

Ice wax

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Rosin


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That's awesome are you going to run the Organics!?! You should! Your ice looks nice! I think I may just buy some bubble bags and try that first for a bit Then get a chamber... I don't know!!!

Damn that was a painful read.


Cannakis. Please I beg you to drop the idea of solvent extraction right now and invest in a quality set of bubble bags and some dry sifting screens. That is all you will ever need. You are not educated enough on solvent extractions and you clearly haven't done your research. and you are poisoning not only yourself but sounds like other people as well.


Learn to grow quality resin and extract it with ice and water(bubble hash/ice wax) and/or heat and pressure(rosin). There's plenty of rosin presses on the market now. Check out dnail for an affordable home unit or if you are willing to invest a couple grand maybe someone else can point you in the proper direction.

This is all stuff I made with ice, water, heat and pressure. You can do it too! Easy peazy ganja squeezey. No explosions, burns or poison dabs. Just some buckets and bags and my wife's hair straightener.

with love from urb

D_Urbmon said:

Damn that was a painful read.


Cannakis. Please I beg you to drop the idea of solvent extraction right now and invest in a quality set of bubble bags and some dry sifting screens. That is all you will ever need. You are not educated enough on solvent extractions and you clearly haven't done your research. and you are poisoning not only yourself but sounds like other people as well.


Learn to grow quality resin and extract it with ice and water(bubble hash/ice wax) and/or heat and pressure(rosin). There's plenty of rosin presses on the market now. Check out dnail for an affordable home unit or if you are willing to invest a couple grand maybe someone else can point you in the proper direction.

This is all stuff I made with ice, water, heat and pressure. You can do it too! Easy peazy ganja squeezey. No explosions, burns or poison dabs. Just some buckets and bags and my wife's hair straightener.

with love from urb

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Hahaha thanks my brother I really do appreciate it! That is some beautiful rosin you have! What was your yield?

Thanks everybody for the advice and for telling my dumb ass that butane is Way Better than ISO!!!! Especially considering the isopropyl picks up chlorophyll because it's a Polar Solvent while butane is Non...

Made some Life Changing Charris! Live Resin! It tastes SO AMAZING! Incredible buzz! Thanks everyone peace!

butane has advantages.
namely other than safety hazards, its near impossible to mess up unlike iso which can quickly become gunk.
as far as tane goes, isobutane is better than n. i dont care for rosin but good luck with whatever

qwizoking said:

butane has advantages.
namely other than safety hazards, its near impossible to mess up unlike iso which can quickly become gunk.
as far as tane goes, isobutane is better than n. i dont care for rosin but good luck with whatever

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Thanks so much brother! Yeah ISO definitely needs to be washed QUICK! But exactly to each his own. And thank GOD! If everyone wanted to be a doctor we'd have nobody to work at McDonald's and vise versa. Because I LOVE Rosin Wax!

lio lacidem said:

No charas is hand rubbed off live plant. Rosin is using heat and pressure to create oil without any solvent being used. The term live resin is used for a product made grom freshly harvested material frozen immediately and no more then 72hours from harvest to oil.
As for your qwiso tech there is no need to put in the oven. Let it air dry with a fan blowing over it. Scrape up. It will be a powder consistency. To make shatter consistency just warm it up til it starts to liquify then let cool to room temp.

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So... charas... is a type of rosin then, if presure and heat are the defining terms. Charas is bud rubbed in the hands with pressure, which creates friction and therefore heat. Pressure and heat... just a differnt type and to different degrees. But technically...

no not even close imo rosin is not even in the same boat as charas

Its all the same at then end. Extract and different levels of purity.

Makes me laugh how people think they have discovered something new like, for instance, rosin. Fact is that pressing with heat is a tech thousands of years old used to get the essence of many fruits vegetables and flowers....

I wish frenchy still posted here

lio lacidem said:

I wish frenchy still posted here

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Let us bring forth @Frenchy Cannoli then! Weed (pun intended) love to hear your thoughts.

WarMachine said:

Let us bring forth @Frenchy Cannoli then! Weed (pun intended) love to hear your thoughts.

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Hahaha!!!

Gquebed said:

So... charas... is a type of rosin then, if presure and heat are the defining terms. Charas is bud rubbed in the hands with pressure, which creates friction and therefore heat. Pressure and heat... just a differnt type and to different degrees. But technically...

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Boom!

Gquebed said:

Its all the same at then end. Extract and different levels of purity.

Makes me laugh how people think they have discovered something new like, for instance, rosin. Fact is that pressing with heat is a tech thousands of years old used to get the essence of many fruits vegetables and flowers....

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Exactly!!! Thank You! Finally someone understands my point.!

bananas, humans. What the difference? It's all the same. Semantics.

D_Urbmon said:

bananas, humans. What the difference? It's all the same. Semantics.

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Exactly. Semantics. That is what is used to make a distintion between rosin, bho, dry sift and so on. But they are just different methods of extracting exactly same thing.

not "exactly"

qwizoking said:

not "exactly"

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How is it Not the same thing? It is Cannabinoids. Pure and simple. One might be dried and granulated and Another might ooey gooey sap, and Another may be a Hard Rosin. But it's All the Same components, just different extraction techniques ending in different products. Still Cannabinoids. Still Cannabis Resin/Oil.

why would one result in hard, and the other goop.

like you said, different products.

and that's not somehow just an appearance thing.
heat is bad, the higher temp is bad. better to use low temp longer for example.
the compounds are fairly sensitive, some much more so than others.

if you have experience extracting other compounds this will make much more sense.
lsh for example will revert back to base lysergamide in 10minutes if a few degrees over 30°f
a small 20 watt bulb in the ceiling if left on will destroy in about 20 minutes. using non distilled (tap) water will destroy on contact. if not in solution, you have but a couple hrs to ingest before o2 breaks it down.
thats using a slightly more sensitive compound than thc to exaggerate and show what i mean.

thc is one of the more sensitive elements of hash oil. you also must keep in mind the components with much lower boiling points. also that tetrahydrocannabinol is but a terpenoid. look at the name. many other terps hit receptors as well.

its much more complicated than saying an extraction is an extraction