CHemDOg Question

morrisgreenberg

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dude no plant no matter the strain should look like that, when did u stop feeding it? last august??? your supposed to let it go deficient last 2 weeks and im sure u did that too early...the lack of phosphoruos and potassium is eveident not in just the color and burnt look, but by the small buds.....did you use any bulking ferts? how long is it flowered for? and how long is chem dog supposed to be flowered?
 

gotot

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dude no plant no matter the strain should look like that, when did u stop feeding it? last august??? your supposed to let it go deficient last 2 weeks and im sure u did that too early...the lack of phosphoruos and potassium is eveident not in just the color and burnt look, but by the small buds.....did you use any bulking ferts? how long is it flowered for? and how long is chem dog supposed to be flowered?
i've been using nutes once a week about 1-2 tbsp per gal, it's nowhere near done, it's been like 5-6 weeks, chemdog goes 8-10.. i dont use bulk ferts. i've got mad shit, just mix it up until i get about 5-20-12.. i've grown mad plants but something always goes wrong during flowering
 

morrisgreenberg

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check it out, i feel your pain, my first grow i used all fox farms, they have a 3 part i dont know if you are familir with them, i burned them early on over fed, i didnt want that to happen again so i stayed the whole grow at half strength, for the flowering stage they make ripeners and bulking ferts, ones with really high P and K like 10-50-10, they make 3 and i oinly, beastie blooms, cha ching and i forget the other, i only had cha ching, i used the one for last 2 weeks of feeding, stay with me on this.....in the flowering stage they need massive amounts of phosphorous P, i didnt provide that, and the regular ferts i was using tiger bloom and big bloom at half strength werent nearly enough, well the strain i had was an 8week strain so i cut the nutes at 6weeks flowering, the plant did exactly what your plant did, small tiny skinny buds, almost no trichs, trust me on this, flowering nutes high in P like a ratio i just described is the way to go,...now if you have a deficiency by other means, like fucked up PH or salt biuld up in the root zone thats a different story, i dont know what your feeding them but as they get older they can take full strength nutes, so dont be shy, at 6 weeks you should see big flowers, this is the period where they put on the most mass, they wont get bigger than this....weeks 5-6 is where u see the most flower growth and it tapers off, during these weeks is when they need the most P and K
 

gotot

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check it out, i feel your pain, my first grow i used all fox farms, they have a 3 part i dont know if you are familir with them, i burned them early on over fed, i didnt want that to happen again so i stayed the whole grow at half strength, for the flowering stage they make ripeners and bulking ferts, ones with really high P and K like 10-50-10, they make 3 and i oinly, beastie blooms, cha ching and i forget the other, i only had cha ching, i used the one for last 2 weeks of feeding, stay with me on this.....in the flowering stage they need massive amounts of phosphorous P, i didnt provide that, and the regular ferts i was using tiger bloom and big bloom at half strength werent nearly enough, well the strain i had was an 8week strain so i cut the nutes at 6weeks flowering, the plant did exactly what your plant did, small tiny skinny buds, almost no trichs, trust me on this, flowering nutes high in P like a ratio i just described is the way to go,...now if you have a deficiency by other means, like fucked up PH or salt biuld up in the root zone thats a different story, i dont know what your feeding them but as they get older they can take full strength nutes, so dont be shy, at 6 weeks you should see big flowers, this is the period where they put on the most mass, they wont get bigger than this....weeks 5-6 is where u see the most flower growth and it tapers off, during these weeks is when they need the most P and K
i've got fox farms i just dont use them for my soil grow, only hydro, if i'm lazy i will though, thanks i hope your advice helps, i've got a 0-5-4 hydro nutes i'll try them:-o
 

morrisgreenberg

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this isnt your first grow right? i see your pix of bluberry and you said u normally have issues during flowering, let me ask you, do you flush? my first time i was flushing like once a month out of necessity, my next one after that i did it to clear out the root zone to make sure i wouldnt have any biuld ups of salt, and it basically gives you a clean slate to ward off defficiencies, you think maybe by the time your deep into flowering, your getting lock out or just maybe not putting the pedal to the medal? i know dudes on here at this particular stage go heavy with the feeding without burning, what brand of nutes do you use?
 

nickfury510

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no..that is not what chemdawg is supposed to look like.....time to get back to square 1 brother and give it another try.......
 

morrisgreenberg

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i stopped soil, im in aero now and use GH full line, im flowering with the regular 3 part, but also using kool bloom..its a 0-10-10...notice the extra P and K on top of my regular feed regime??? the more and more we talk about this, the more im certain you need higher than 0-5-4...even the fox farms tiger bloom and big bloom is useless unless your blasting them, i went wrong not using beastie blooms and open sesame, by the time i was ready for the cha ching it was too late, bro next grow use the additives, from any company , most bloom additives only have P and K, nothing else, and u will find no matter the company, it will be labled "bulking formula" good luck my man, i hear checm dog is supposed to be the bad ass on the block
 

morrisgreenberg

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bro i just took a peep at your grow journal, i seen you had mad plants going deficient too early, how did that bluberry finish? i seen u had healthy ones and plants the had P def's in the back, another question is how did you come to that ratio of 5-20-12? u just told me u use 0-5-4 nutes, what are you mixing when u feed? if you listen to me your next grow will be 100% but you really should let me know what your mixing up...those bluberries look like they are 3-4 weeks flowering and looked fine, if you hit a wall right after this period around weeks 5-6 i am certain your having P issues
 

Phelps

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I got chemdog growing all the time and I never had plants that looked like that. Chemdog is a very resiliant plant also so to be that far gone is crazy. I agree with mor 100%. In fact, week three or four u can add Hydroplex or PK13/14 to give the plant a nice boost to go out of the stretch with. THe first 4-5 weeks are the stretch and after that the bud piles on. It seems, when its time to pile on bud its taking all the nutes out of the leaves because ur short in the root zone..
 

brothafromanothaplanet

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I got chemdog growing all the time and I never had plants that looked like that. Chemdog is a very resiliant plant also so to be that far gone is crazy. I agree with mor 100%. In fact, week three or four u can add Hydroplex or PK13/14 to give the plant a nice boost to go out of the stretch with. THe first 4-5 weeks are the stretch and after that the bud piles on. It seems, when its time to pile on bud its taking all the nutes out of the leaves because ur short in the root zone..
where u guys getting these chemdog beans from?? that's some of the best bud i've ever smoked......i'd like to grow some myself.
 

gotot

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this isnt your first grow right? i see your pix of bluberry and you said u normally have issues during flowering, let me ask you, do you flush? my first time i was flushing like once a month out of necessity, my next one after that i did it to clear out the root zone to make sure i wouldnt have any biuld ups of salt, and it basically gives you a clean slate to ward off defficiencies, you think maybe by the time your deep into flowering, your getting lock out or just maybe not putting the pedal to the medal? i know dudes on here at this particular stage go heavy with the feeding without burning, what brand of nutes do you use?
i feed once a week, no i dont flush, i have too many plants for that shit... i barely used any nutes on it the whole gro. like i said i've got mad shit so i just mix and match until i get the right levels:
i have dyna-gro,floramicro,humbolt,fox farms, metanaturals
 

gotot

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bro i just took a peep at your grow journal, i seen you had mad plants going deficient too early, how did that bluberry finish? i seen u had healthy ones and plants the had P def's in the back, another question is how did you come to that ratio of 5-20-12? u just told me u use 0-5-4 nutes, what are you mixing when u feed? if you listen to me your next grow will be 100% but you really should let me know what your mixing up...those bluberries look like they are 3-4 weeks flowering and looked fine, if you hit a wall right after this period around weeks 5-6 i am certain your having P issues
the problem is, i have too many plants to keep track of but i know i've been feeding the chemdog the veyr minimum if that... in my BB grow journal, the plants def. in the back are probably the chemdog and this plant(pic below)no blueberries are done yet, you should subscribe:-o... BTW i had a 0-10-0(matenaturals) i ran out of awhile ago...
 

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morrisgreenberg

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to be perfectly honest with you, you have too many things going on, i love dynagro, its a beast for vegging, i know how u feel about flushing but its soooo critical if you use soil and catch a deficiencie, and this is what is happeneing, when in doubt flush it out, i know its a ton of work but its a must in these situations, if you have a problem with nutrients, it gives you a clean slate, i suggest you settle on one specific product line from any one of those companies and stick to it...flushing is the reason i stopped messing with dirt...look we often get what we put into our grows, lets say you settled on GH nutes, use gro micro and bloom in conjunction with kool bloom liquid for start of flowering, then use dry kool bloom for late flowering as per GH feed schedule, and i promise you you wont have these issues again,honestly for the soil i had a great harvest with fox farms and the shit was tasty, organics are great for soil, if you so choose fox farms get grow big, big bloom and tiger bloom and use beastie open sesame and chaching for flowering and you will be golden! if you are using dynagro - gro and GH micro together its pointless cus dynagro has everything a plant needs in one serving unlike GH's 3-part...
 

morrisgreenberg

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you said you been feeding the chemdog the minimal, why? this might be the only stage where u can go full strength without burning your tips, please remember how critical the P and K are for getting larger fruits
 

gotot

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to be perfectly honest with you, you have too many things going on, i love dynagro, its a beast for vegging, i know how u feel about flushing but its soooo critical if you use soil and catch a deficiencie, and this is what is happeneing, when in doubt flush it out, i know its a ton of work but its a must in these situations, if you have a problem with nutrients, it gives you a clean slate, i suggest you settle on one specific product line from any one of those companies and stick to it...flushing is the reason i stopped messing with dirt...look we often get what we put into our grows, lets say you settled on GH nutes, use gro micro and bloom in conjunction with kool bloom liquid for start of flowering, then use dry kool bloom for late flowering as per GH feed schedule, and i promise you you wont have these issues again,honestly for the soil i had a great harvest with fox farms and the shit was tasty, organics are great for soil, if you so choose fox farms get grow big, big bloom and tiger bloom and use beastie open sesame and chaching for flowering and you will be golden! if you are using dynagro - gro and GH micro together its pointless cus dynagro has everything a plant needs in one serving unlike GH's 3-part...
ive got the whole fox farm set for my aerogarden
 

morrisgreenberg

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PM me when you start your aero, if you noticed you fox famrs bloom nutes, tiger bloom has all the nutes, and big bloom only has P and K, they intend for you to use big bloom on top of the tiger bloom to supplement during this critical stage of flowering
 

gotot

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PM me when you start your aero, if you noticed you fox famrs bloom nutes, tiger bloom has all the nutes, and big bloom only has P and K, they intend for you to use big bloom on top of the tiger bloom to supplement during this critical stage of flowering
i ony use the aerogarden for cloning... then i transplant..keep thing simple :-o... and the garden doesn' allow space for the plants to grow
 
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