Chemical Ferts in Organics?

bertiswho

Active Member
Question for everyone out there.

What do you think about using chemical fertilizers in organic set ups?

By organic set up, i mean, Ammended soils and compost teas and all the naturals.

my personal opinion is that if your using chemical fertilizers its not an organic set up, and i also beleive that chemical ferts hurt your soil food web.

Iam not saying there is a right or wrong answer i just wanna know everyones opinions on the matter.

What do you guys think?
 

dvs1038

Well-Known Member
Well I think anyone that tries to say their grow is organic while using chem.ferts is outta their gourd.
 

crazyhazey

Well-Known Member
salt based nutes only synthesize the elements a plant needs, i use them in collaboration with high pk bat guano during heavy flower. ive used bontaicare and am trying technaflora right now, my plants are doing pretty well.
 

l8lDANKl8l

Active Member
im running an "organic" setup right now with liquid ferts. All of the ferts i use are "vegan" except for the processed squid. All nutrients are from plant extracts which imo are organic.

Heres a link to General Hydroponics website(when you get there click on the "GO" box, stands for general organics, nutrient package; im currently using these products with very good results for my first run ever):

http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/general_organics/


Hope you guys will find this information helpful!
 

Kalyx

Active Member
To quote another user (again) and agree with the OP. "Organic is like pregnant, you either are or you aren't". IMO 100% organic is the only way I will grow meds.

Plants using ionic nutrition (synthetics) relate to the rhizosphere in a very different way than ones grown with living organic soils / soilless with liquid organics. In short they are directly fed through ionic uptake through the root membrane. Even a complete synth nutrient will only provide 12-19 'essential' ions (that are usually chelated with questionable compounds for living systems). ie Junk food diet.
The organic style presents larger "food" molecules which in turn are processed into plant available forms by microbial lifeforms (B/A and fungi which are then consumed by protozoa, Protozoa utilize about 30% of the material and deposit up to 70% as waste that is mineralized for root uptake). All the essentials will be supplied plus endless other trace and minute elements, not to mention all the enzymes, hormones, and a plethora of other compounds that help plants and are produced right where they are needed, in the rhizosphere. ie much more complete and wholesome diet fitting of a sacred plant that helps people all over the world. No wonder organic cannabis tastes better and is IMO the highest quality growing style. Organic plants work with their microbes and have exactly what they need when its needed, given that the gardener has all the bases covered for them to thrive.
These two uptake systems are very different and it is stressful for a plant to switch between the two (switching styles or nutes mid crop). That said plants (and most life forms) are great at working with what they've got and won't be killed by blending the methods. IMO Its probably better to blend them from the get go instead of switching styles on a given crop/plant.
So obviously IMO synth nutes in organic setups is an oxymoron that should be avoided. At work we grow synth crops in hydro and both organic and synth fed crops in soil (not my choice but both styles work) we don't mix the two though. Its one or the other. You couldn't pay me to smoke the synth grown meds if I have access to the organic grown ones. If I have zero organic options then maybe I'll smoke the synth meds but it sure isn't a flavor experience this cannasuer wants, gets me medicated still though. Really to each their own just think about the whole life cycle / sustainability issues involved and organic makes more sense there too IMO. If it can't be grown or wild harvested then it must be mined. Organic still supports all 3 but synth is 100% mining and chelator chemistry labs, I'll NOT support that with my gardening dollars!
 
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