chemical foliar feed on organic grow

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KingofHearts2die4

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hey i had a sample bottle of koolbloom which i think is something like 0-50-30 or so but huge numbers like that...recently im not to worried about it still being an organic grow due to maybe trying to get more yeild out of it. would anyone recommend doing something like this and if so at what application rate? and is in beggining of flowering

thanks
 
poplars

poplars

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you say that as if organic wont give you the yeilds you're looking for? just stick it out dude, seriously.
 
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KingofHearts2die4

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well they jsut say that chemical grows faster, and as much as i love to smoke my own im looking for something that will shorten the flowering time maybe and give alittle extra weight..i mean i have budswell and happy frog fruit and flower, sweet, and molasses, superthrive. i pretty much mixed in a a bunch of both less of the budswell but now im sure im gonna just use straight water
 
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blackbellychimp

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I mean my understanding of growing organically is that the people growing are purposely getting rid of all chemical ferts for the sake of taste/smell/yeild/quality, but if you have no problem with it then why not? I think its a matter of preference honestly.
 
canefan

canefan

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Mixing the two (chemical and organics) shouldn't hurt anything in your grow. I would only be concerned if you were to mix the two into the soil but foliar should be fine. I just started using a cal-mag foliar mix with a few girls to see the difference and I am totally organic except for this. I haven't noticed any difference in the health of my soil or in the number of worms I have living in my soil. I also see no difference in the ones sprayed with the cal-mag over just foliar feeding with molasses, which is basically the same thing except for the nitrogen content. The N is easily made up by good soil and a little manure tea sprayed with the molasses.
Hope this gives you a bit of insight to your question.
 
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Cannabisculture

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KingofHearts2die4 said:
hey i had a sample bottle of koolbloom which i think is something like 0-50-30 or so but huge numbers like that...recently im not to worried about it still being an organic grow due to maybe trying to get more yeild out of it. would anyone recommend doing something like this and if so at what application rate? and is in beggining of flowering

thanks
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I wouldnt use that high of a nutrient as a foliar, maybe as a little end of flower boost before flush. Organic cannabis takes much longer than chems bro, at least 2-3 weeks sometimes 4 if you dark cycle/drown ect..
I thought i wasn't getting enough yield at first too until i decided to wait a couple more weeks...good thing i did otherwise i would still be chopping early!
you can prep your plants for flower production with Koolbloom the first 2 weeks at 1/2 strength and like i said before, the last 2 weeks before you flush to get those buds nice and solid.
You shouldnt be foliar feeding in flower anyways unless you are just spraying the leaves and not buds but thats pretty hard.

If your room has low humidity and you have water soluble nutes and a humidifier then just mix up 1/4 strength Koolbloom : 1 gal H20 and that will feed your plants constantly at a slow rate.
(only have to worry about the humidifier gunking up so use a cheap one)
Happy growing!
-CC
 
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KingofHearts2die4

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The nutes im using is Happy frog fruit and flower and budswell....mycro, great white, and humbolt myan bacteria, and molasses.reason why is im not sure if im having a def in my plant so i figured using something like that could cure up alittle def if there is one...i also have another chem fert called liqui-green...says its balanced fert with trace minerals...

I can completely understand the chemical route and i know it deff produces faster grow and earlier finish...everyone can claim to that.....
the route on organics is cause its my own personal grow...but if i can get extra yeild with alittle help from chemicals via foliar i kinda want to so i can make alittle extra side cash ya know.
I do not use them in my soil...no no for chemicals maybe next year some chemicals can be used on a headband seed my buddy gave me.


Also, anyone have anythiny on powdery mildew.i think its begining on some of the super tiny budsite in the lower part of my plant and i wasnt sure if i was down for that peroxide, soap mix..any route on using microbes to eat that shit? lol
 
poplars

poplars

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KingofHearts2die4 said:
The nutes im using is Happy frog fruit and flower and budswell....mycro, great white, and humbolt myan bacteria, and molasses.reason why is im not sure if im having a def in my plant so i figured using something like that could cure up alittle def if there is one...i also have another chem fert called liqui-green...says its balanced fert with trace minerals...

I can completely understand the chemical route and i know it deff produces faster grow and earlier finish...everyone can claim to that.....
the route on organics is cause its my own personal grow...but if i can get extra yeild with alittle help from chemicals via foliar i kinda want to so i can make alittle extra side cash ya know.
I do not use them in my soil...no no for chemicals maybe next year some chemicals can be used on a headband seed my buddy gave me.


Also, anyone have anythiny on powdery mildew.i think its begining on some of the super tiny budsite in the lower part of my plant and i wasnt sure if i was down for that peroxide, soap mix..any route on using microbes to eat that shit? lol
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I really don't think the percieved benefits of using chemicals at this point outweigh the benefits of staying purely organic... that's all I have to say.
 
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KingofHearts2die4

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well i have already hit them with a super cut strenght maybe like 1/10 liqui-green of what it said to do on the bottle..weird thing is the ph was at somewhere around 8 after mixing.and the foliar aspect we just got a massive rain and my plant got drenched so i put a fan on it to blow all that moisture away while the sun is shining all up in her grill. im going to use that peroxide dilute that canefan posted on the thread..looks good to me...other then that all my nutes seem to be in the soil....i deff think i got a mag deff going on im still having yellowing up my shoots and green in the veins(very slowly but surely).all the nutes are mixed in so im not sure what to do...i have sweet, and calc mag+ and im sure that it doesnt need any calc mag+ due to the happy frogs calcium in the food....ill post a picture shortly showing what i mean...and the foliar thing yeah i get most of the leaves without hitting the flower sights.
 
poplars

poplars

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oh yeah one more thing... the second you use chemicals on anything, you can no longer call it an organic grow.... just sayin'
 
poplars

poplars

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no you said organic grow, which pretty much implies 100% organic, lol... but hey its your thread I'm just letting you know how others probably see it...
 
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KingofHearts2die4

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okay well im sorry, FOR ALL THOSE WHO READ THIS THIS IS NOT A 100% ORGANIC GROW.i am sorry for posting it in the organic threads...did due to the overwelming posts in the plant problems catagory..also i posted a mag def post in the plant problems cat could you take a look at that for me?
 
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