Chemist77 315 watt CDL grow

GroErr said:
Nice, 3590's are in my radar to try too but going to wait a bit until our dollar stabilizes, exchange rates make them too expesive to bother right now.

Meant to ask you if you'd noticed any reduction in finish times between the hps and LEC's with the strains you're running.
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yes,, i pulled at 8 weeks because i had planned it that way, but i could have pulled the bubble gum at 7 weeks..the gum always took 8 weeks to finish under hps but under the cmh light it was finished at 7.. now i know for future runs under the cmh i can take a week off flower times.. but i add a week to veg times so it all evens out..under hps a 1 week veg,8 week in flower i get 3ft plants, with cmh a 2 week veg and 7 week flower gets 2 to 2 n a half ft plants.. lower buds are of a larger size under cmh too, no more popcorn w/ cmh all buds are usable.. i forgot to mention i make bubble hash w/ clippings and the hash made from the cmh runs was the best hash ive ever seen and more of it.. the 90 micron stuff i use to fill pills, the 75 micron and below goes into bricks.. my patients LOVE the pills, 1 pill makes life seem so much better, you cant stop smiling, take 2,,,,your out,, you cant keep your eyes open,,you can try to fight it but sleep is unevitable.. aches and pains dissapear,,my back,,,what back? its as if there is no body attached to your head,,well you cant feel it anyways.lol
 
TheChemist77 said:
yes,, i pulled at 8 weeks because i had planned it that way, but i could have pulled the bubble gum at 7 weeks..the gum always took 8 weeks to finish under hps but under the cmh light it was finished at 7.. now i know for future runs under the cmh i can take a week off flower times.. but i add a week to veg times so it all evens out..under hps a 1 week veg,8 week in flower i get 3ft plants, with cmh a 2 week veg and 7 week flower gets 2 to 2 n a half ft plants.. lower buds are of a larger size under cmh too, no more popcorn w/ cmh all buds are usable.. i forgot to mention i make bubble hash w/ clippings and the hash made from the cmh runs was the best hash ive ever seen and more of it.. the 90 micron stuff i use to fill pills, the 75 micron and below goes into bricks.. my patients LOVE the pills, 1 pill makes life seem so much better, you cant stop smiling, take 2,,,,your out,, you cant keep your eyes open,,you can try to fight it but sleep is unevitable.. aches and pains dissapear,,my back,,,what back? its as if there is no body attached to your head,,well you cant feel it anyways.lol
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Ok so your flowering time is reduced but your veg time increased, interesting. I didn't notice veg time as I always vegged under blurple LED's and run perpetual and a bunch of different strains that typically change. But with my control strains I found it knocked at least 5 days off flowering on average. Medibles rock, I run kief and then use that to make coconut oil caps, same thing, anyone who's tried them for any sort of chronic pain loves them and keep coming back for more. I take 60mg pills regularly as they don't get me too blasted and I'm still functional but there's always a 1 hour window about an hour in where you get the giggles, doesn't seem to matter how little or how much you take. If I want to get stoned I'll take 2 and 4 - 5 hours later it's the head nod thing like you mention, then a good 8-9 hour sleep, there's no fighting the head nods for sure - lol For pain there's nothing else that I've ever tried that works better than caps, back pain, muscle pain, it all disappears when they take effect. I know so many people that could benefit from them that are still stuck in old school thinking about MJ being the evil weed and won't try them, yet they're popping pharma pills constantly and paying the price with side effects and long term issues, very frustrating trying to break that old school thinking with some people.
 
GroErr said:
Ok so your flowering time is reduced but your veg time increased, interesting. I didn't notice veg time as I always vegged under blurple LED's and run perpetual and a bunch of different strains that typically change. But with my control strains I found it knocked at least 5 days off flowering on average. Medibles rock, I run kief and then use that to make coconut oil caps, same thing, anyone who's tried them for any sort of chronic pain loves them and keep coming back for more. I take 60mg pills regularly as they don't get me too blasted and I'm still functional but there's always a 1 hour window about an hour in where you get the giggles, doesn't seem to matter how little or how much you take. If I want to get stoned I'll take 2 and 4 - 5 hours later it's the head nod thing like you mention, then a good 8-9 hour sleep, there's no fighting the head nods for sure - lol For pain there's nothing else that I've ever tried that works better than caps, back pain, muscle pain, it all disappears when they take effect. I know so many people that could benefit from them that are still stuck in old school thinking about MJ being the evil weed and won't try them, yet they're popping pharma pills constantly and paying the price with side effects and long term issues, very frustrating trying to break that old school thinking with some people.
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You're doing good work, keep on doing it. They'll come around when they figure out that you've had a bad back for years, yet it doesn't stop you... and you aren't hooked on smack pills peddled by Big Pharma.
 
ttystikk said:
You're doing good work, keep on doing it. They'll come around when they figure out that you've had a bad back for years, yet it doesn't stop you... and you aren't hooked on smack pills peddled by Big Pharma.
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Thanks @ttystikk I've been able to convert the odd non-believer but less than I'd like to. The meds side of MJ is very personal for me as I've been through the system myself and have lost a couple of family members including my dad to cancer.. My only experience with pharma meds was a few years back in 2010 when I battled cancer, I was stage 4 and they gave me 6-12 months if I did nothing so I went through both chemo and radiation. Had to take some pharma shit that goes with chemo treatments for a few months and I couldn't believe the side effects, didn't take any oxy's or the like although they were freely offered. I used MJ and edibles to offset the meds and the symptoms which helped big time, probably saved my life, it certainly saved my quality of life. As soon as I was finished treatments I got off the pharma meds and still take nothing but MJ meds. My oncologist still shakes his head every time I see him, he told me when I got diagnosed that I should get my shit in order, in other words don't expect to come out of it. When I see him for yearly check ups now I remind him to prescribe MJ, we've had a lot of talks about it and how I used it, he's a convert and is helping a lot of people now so I consider him my biggest contribution to the cause :) It's frustrating to know it can help but being stone walled by old school devil weed thinking #$%!
 
GroErr said:
Thanks @ttystikk I've been able to convert the odd non-believer but less than I'd like to. The meds side of MJ is very personal for me as I've been through the system myself and have lost a couple of family members including my dad to cancer.. My only experience with pharma meds was a few years back in 2010 when I battled cancer, I was stage 4 and they gave me 6-12 months if I did nothing so I went through both chemo and radiation. Had to take some pharma shit that goes with chemo treatments for a few months and I couldn't believe the side effects, didn't take any oxy's or the like although they were freely offered. I used MJ and edibles to offset the meds and the symptoms which helped big time, probably saved my life, it certainly saved my quality of life. As soon as I was finished treatments I got off the pharma meds and still take nothing but MJ meds. My oncologist still shakes his head every time I see him, he told me when I got diagnosed that I should get my shit in order, in other words don't expect to come out of it. When I see him for yearly check ups now I remind him to prescribe MJ, we've had a lot of talks about it and how I used it, he's a convert and is helping a lot of people now so I consider him my biggest contribution to the cause :) It's frustrating to know it can help but being stone walled by old school devil weed thinking #$%!
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No one who comes to me with a legitimate medical need goes away empty handed. Ever. Cuz someday it will be me, it's only a matter of when.
 
What's the lighting in your veg hood? Another 315? My girls LOVE veg under 860W CDM, I wish the things were more efficient.
 
ttystikk said:
What's the lighting in your veg hood? Another 315? My girls LOVE veg under 860W CDM, I wish the things were more efficient.
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My veg area is covered by 1 400 watt metal halide 6500k and 1 125 watt CFL 6500k.. I plan to change it but I'm trying to see if going from the higher k mh in veg then going to the 31ook cmh in flower will get more height than going from the 4200k cmh in veg to the 3100k cmh in flower.. I'll have to do it over the next few runs as I'm using the 1k hps now.. Plants going from mh in veg to hps in flower are a bit taller and space between nodes are larger than under mh in veg to cmh in flower..I can say already the 3 315's covered the table and buckets much better than the 1k hps..table is ok but the buckets are not looking as good as they did getting only indirect light from the 315's.. I also don't think the 1k will get 1200 grams,, I've never got more than 1 gram per watt under a 1k.. I've gotten 1250 grams under 2 600 watt hps's tho,,so I'm thinking the 945 watts of ceramic is just as good as 2 600 watt hps's. Plus plants finish faster under cmh so you can take 1 week off flower times,,,but you might want to add that week to your veg time.

After all the ceramics wer a great investment,, I took a gamble and it paid off far better than the time I wasted money on the led lights.. As long as the ceramics don't break or anything I'll be pleased,, I hope the cmh ballasts last as long as my old magnetic ballasts,,20 plus years old and still work as well as the day I bought them...
 
No, your magnetic ballasts AREN'T working as well today as when you bought them; coils, capacitors and ignitors all wear and need periodic replacement. Have them checked. Saved me money on power and lamps.

Like the good reviews on the 315W CMH, but I'm afraid you're going to have to invest in LED again; my CXB3590 chips are making better light than anything else I've ever used. Period.
 
GroErr said:
It would seem it's starting. Here's a new kit from Hydrofarm I hadn't seen before. Noticed it in a promo email from Growershouse. With a 10% discount on all lights they have going right now, this kit with the Elite Agro in either 3100k or 4200k, hood, ballast, ready to fire for ~$300. Haven't looked too deep but it looks like the unit supports 120v or 240v out of the box. External ballast, not quite as clean/neat as the Sun Systems and the reflector doesn't look quite as good as the SS but hey for $300?

Promo: http://growershouse.com/phantom-cmh-reflector-ballast-and-bulb-kit
Hydrofarm: https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/PHR3150
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4 of these are working great for me in a 5x5. not a bad unit and i love the external ballast. vertical bulb so no spectrum shift.... boulder lamp seems a bit overpriced relative to the mainstream hfarm and sun systems units also hfarm is aircoolable
 
BOBBY_G said:
4 of these are working great for me in a 5x5. not a bad unit and i love the external ballast. vertical bulb so no spectrum shift.... boulder lamp seems a bit overpriced relative to the mainstream hfarm and sun systems units also hfarm is aircoolable
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im very happy with the boulder lamp, yes it was a bit more expensive but they paid themselves off in one run. also i like the coverage and wonder if the sun system or hydro farm units will cover the same area,,same bulbs, roughly same ballasts, only difference is the reflectors and attached or detached ballast.

ttystikk said:
Shhhhh, the plants can hear you and they'll shrivel up from the negative vibes, maaaaaan... don't you know anything about weed, maaaaaan? Just, like- smoke a joint and relax, maaaaaaan. They be ready when they're ready, maaaaaaan...
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lol,,yes i talk to my ladies daily.. but at 6 weeks into bloom buds are not nearly as mature as they wer under cmh, i hope they finish at 8 weeks,,,they always did before..i have a small 3ftx3ft area i was using for S1's and i plan to buy a 300 watt cob to cover this are and do 1 run with the 315 cmh then 1 run with the 300 watt cob. i was leaning twards the go green 300 watt but its the cxb 3070's and id prefer to get the 3590's if you can recomend a 300 watt unit for around $800.00 id apreciate it...
 
TheChemist77 said:
im very happy with the boulder lamp, yes it was a bit more expensive but they paid themselves off in one run. also i like the coverage and wonder if the sun system or hydro farm units will cover the same area,,same bulbs, roughly same ballasts, only difference is the reflectors and attached or detached ballast.



lol,,yes i talk to my ladies daily.. but at 6 weeks into bloom buds are not nearly as mature as they wer under cmh, i hope they finish at 8 weeks,,,they always did before..i have a small 3ftx3ft area i was using for S1's and i plan to buy a 300 watt cob to cover this are and do 1 run with the 315 cmh then 1 run with the 300 watt cob. i was leaning twards the go green 300 watt but its the cxb 3070's and id prefer to get the 3590's if you can recomend a 300 watt unit for around $800.00 id apreciate it...
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Tasty LED, Johnson Grow Lights, and several more offer a 4 CXB3590 unit that pulls just over 200W and hits your price point. It's a very efficient combo, I'd think it would be serious competition for the 315W fixture.
 
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