Chewing Stems

Titania said:

Spot on m8, I swallowed a 1.7 lump (dry) with some water didn't do shit!
Then after my first harvest I put a spliffs worth in my mouth, chewed it up real good, cos it tasted so damn fine, then swallowed. 1/2 hour later.......High as a mo fucker!

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Hey Titania, I never really had enough weed to go around eating it, I heard you have to eat a bit more then you smoke to get the same amount of effect.. I think i'm interested in trying it one day after I harvest from my grow.. I thought though, that you only get a body type stone from chewing it, not getting high. If it does give you a more chilaxed high, then I might go ahead and try it. Id like to see how diff it is..

I collect up the stems in a 8oz styofoam cup, when it is full, I get the coffee grinder and grind them up. There is always a powdery coating at the top. Same thing happens with bud when I put a little there. As for the heat issue, I've read here and on different sites the reason for heating keif is to activate the THC while making hash. Of course that is ONLY what I've read. One thing about it, I wished some of these things, like how to make hash or cannabutter were presented like a recipe for biscuits you know

2 cups flour (for you people, make that cannaflour)
3/4 cup milk
1/4 cup oil (or cannaoil/butter)
1 egg

Mix all ingredients completely - it should be doughy
Use a spoon - regular eating type - to for individual biscuits
Bake on 450 degrees for 14 minutes

Guess what I am asking is why isn't this the standard format for posting recipes? It would be a lot easier than most of what I've seen. After all, if you can read, then you can succeed. For those who have mastered the cannabutter or oil, try it in the biscuits and let me know. I would imagine you might want to call them Bombed Biscuits. If you can make gravy, then you could take the cannaoil to make gravy out of. I know all this is somewhat off topic, but the ideas occurred to me and I wanted to write them down.

Guess the point I'm trying to make is I've always heard the high from cooked cannabis is much stronger than that of just smoked. And that is because the weed is cooked, that heat somehow makes the THC effective. I don't know if it "activates" the THC, but cooking does involve heat. Perhaps I should simply take more time to look into this. Although I've found this an interesting post. I just need to learn to make this stuff for myself.

Ummm eww...I throw mine away makes my hash taste funny.

Hiesman said:

trust me man... u dont need heat to "activate" the affects of thc... if you eat it plain.. it'll get u just as high... even higher than just smoking it... ur the only person ive heard of to say anything about activation of thc... real talk... if u take a bud... put it in your mout... and then chew... then swallow... wait a while for your body to digest it and when its being digested your body will absorb it into your blood line and u will get high

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well bruv, if you havent heard of this before then were have you been? i have seen many people stating that you cannot get high of just eating raw bud, however i dont know because i have never tried it, although i think eating it may affect people differently because i have read threads on this site with people stating that they have gotten high of eating raw bud, (i think) or bud boiled in hot water.

By no means has in gave me a buzz or uped one i already had.
It's a great way yo quit biteing your finger nails.

i am a little bit angry seeing you tell iToke that THC isnt heat activated/released. this is what i know, cannabis whether its strain be indica or sativa has tetrahydrocannabinol or "THC" which targets the cannabinoid receptors, as the main chemical reaction, this has a chemical in itself called dronabinol which is the psychoactive ingredient.

all forms of cannabis have ways of releasing the THC in them, and i assure you that drying your buds isnt "activating" the THC in them. drying your buds is to remove moisture from them, so they can be stored successfully for longer periods of time whilst being transferred around the world to be sold, and just to dry them out to smoke. but to actually have the THC released from the cannabis to my knowledge is as iToke said, from mixing it with a fatty substance, such as butter which breaks down the cellular walls and allows THC to enter the bloodstream. obviously you can smoke your buds too as everyone will agree, this does something! and finally you can also release THC by mixing it with an alcoholic substance.

all this is not to say that eating raw buds wont do anything, but it wont get much if any THC on your cannabinoid receptors, it will however, enduce other chemicals that are in cannabis other than THC which will give some effects. so you will feel something from eating your buds if you have enough, but the effects are greatly reduced and as strikinghigh55 said, much of the effects are absorbed by the liver. so eating your buds will eventually give you a lessened effect, but the biggest thing you will probably notice is a stomach ache! so i dont recommend!

PoonPoon said:

i am a little bit angry seeing you tell iToke that THC isnt heat activated/released. this is what i know, cannabis whether its strain be indica or sativa has tetrahydrocannabinol or "THC" which targets the cannabinoid receptors, as the main chemical reaction, this has a chemical in itself called dronabinol which is the psychoactive ingredient.

all forms of cannabis have ways of releasing the THC in them, and i assure you that drying your buds isnt "activating" the THC in them. drying your buds is to remove moisture from them, so they can be stored successfully for longer periods of time whilst being transferred around the world to be sold, and just to dry them out to smoke. but to actually have the THC released from the cannabis to my knowledge is as iToke said, from mixing it with a fatty substance, such as butter which breaks down the cellular walls and allows THC to enter the bloodstream. obviously you can smoke your buds too as everyone will agree, this does something! and finally you can also release THC by mixing it with an alcoholic substance.

all this is not to say that eating raw buds wont do anything, but it wont get much if any THC on your cannabinoid receptors, it will however, enduce other chemicals that are in cannabis other than THC which will give some effects. so you will feel something from eating your buds if you have enough, but the effects are greatly reduced and as strikinghigh55 said, much of the effects are absorbed by the liver. so eating your buds will eventually give you a lessened effect, but the biggest thing you will probably notice is a stomach ache! so i dont recommend!

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"Marijuana produces THCA, an acid with the carboxylic group (COOH) attached. In its acid form, THC is not very active. It is only when the carboxyl group is removed that THC becomes psychoactive.... If you plan to vaporize or smoke the extract decarboxylation will take place as the oil is used.

However, it is easy to make sure all the THC is decarboxylated and is at full strength before it is extracted. Although decarboxylation takes place rapidly at 106* C, it proceeds at a more gradual pace by placing the cannabis in a room with low relative humidity and room temperature. As the temperature rises, the rate of decarboxylation increases.

Cannabis can also be placed in a food dehydrator to remove the carboxyl group. Although the heat in the food dehydrator doesn't rise to 106? C, the temperature is warm enough to promote drying and the release of the water and CO2. When the marijuana is crispy and brittle you can be assured that the carboxyl group has been removed from the cannabinoids and they are ready for extraction or removal from the plant material."

So yeah, drying will decarboxylate (or activate if you will) THC.

"Can you chew stems to get a buzz even if its absolutely covered with PURE THC?"

Simple answer : NO


If youre eating raw pot, youre wasting it!

THC is a LIPID (AKA FAT (and Alcohol) soluble molecule and whatever you 'absorb' through your mouth will be pissed out. It CANNOT pass the blood brain barrier unless its been absorbed by a fat or alcohol.

AKRevo47 said:

"Can you chew stems to get a buzz even if its absolutely covered with PURE THC?"

Simple answer : NO


If youre eating raw pot, youre wasting it!

THC is a LIPID (AKA FAT (and Alcohol) soluble molecule and whatever you 'absorb' through your mouth will be pissed out. It CANNOT pass the blood brain barrier unless its been absorbed by a fat or alcohol.

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People have been eating hash since time began.

Ive also ate raw hash, BUT YOU EAT WITH SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS FAT!

ever heard of drinking a glass of milk with your pain pill?

FAT SOLUBLE

AKRevo47 said:

Ive also ate raw hash, BUT YOU EAT WITH SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS FAT!

ever heard of drinking a glass of milk with your pain pill?

FAT SOLUBLE

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Eat a gram of hash alone, then you can speak from experience. Ever hear of that?

I can guarantee it works without fat, milk, alcohol...or anything else.

yeah i have.

check my grows, especially my first one.

Ive tried cannabis in just about every shape and form. Please dont try to tell me what Ive experienced. Also, take a class in physiology and tell me that.

Thats because theres something in your stomach that absorbs the THC.

try eating it on a completely empty stomach next time. SOME WILL get absorbed but the high would be nothing compared to eating that hash with a glass of milk

If you'd ever tried hash alone, you wouldn't claim it won't work, or just barely work.

Fat or alcohol might make for optimal absorption, but to say hash is wasted when eaten alone is simply misleading and untrue. It still will work quite well.

I have eaten it on an empty stomach, you try it.

I don't need to take a class to know what I've experienced.

Im telling you the FACTS and you still deny it. Read about the blood brain barrier and what types of molecules can pass through and why. Hash is wasted when eaten alone because your not absorbing it all. How is that misleading? Why would you eat hash that wont be used? Do you enjoy shitting out your hash?

Like I said, Ive had pot in EVERY FORM and EVERY WAY. Check my white lightning grow...

I understand what you say, but I can't deny the history of hash eating and what I've personally experienced.

You made claims that denied the full facts...that's equal to an untruth.

edit: I'm not interested in your grow.

Ok, you experience is subjective. My experiences happen to be different. Does that make me or you right? No. Im sure there are alot of factors involved but im telling you, and my textbook could back me up, that THC will NOT enter into your brain unless it is being carried through.

THC is a polar molecule. The only molecules that can pass through are non-polar (like oxygen) and small. THC is also a big molecule with multiple elements.

If you tell me that its possible for that THC to pass through that barrier, then you are just completely ignorant, because its not. The science is there. I dont care what your experience says, its not physically possible. If you think your BBB is special and allows it to pass through, then good for you.

What were my claims that denied the full facts?

I dont care if your interested about my grow. Im trying to get you to quit telling me what Ive experienced and have tried. All the evidence is on the grow...So, again dont tell me what ive tried because I have proof. Should I make some Hash right now so I can shit it out? Well both run some tests and see what happens...

Viagro said:

I understand what you say, but I can't deny the history of hash eating and what I've personally experienced.

You made claims that denied the full facts...that's equal to an untruth.

edit: I'm not interested in your grow.

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I'm not saying you're wrong in what you're saying, but I want you to explain how a tincture works then. If I make a tincture from ethanol and boil off the alcohol, and I used 120 proof, then 40 of the solution would be water, and when the alcohol was boiled off, I would have THC, clorofyll++ and water. This is taken orally with droppers, and according to your theory it shouldn't be active...

Or am I just misunderstanding all of this?

tch is heat activated havent you herd of a vaporizer lol but it needs to be heated up to be activated but not heated so much as to the point of vaporization