Chicago Customs seed removal.

fieldhand

fieldhand

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xtsho said:
That is the exact same standard form letter I posted. The seeds lacked proper documentation and they were seized. You can collect all the seizure letters you want but absolutely nothing will come of it. There is absolutely nothing that can be done and any lawyer worth anything will tell you the same thing. If they're not then they're just stringing you along to collect a fee.

I don't understand why you are spending time on this. The rules are clear. Agricultural products require proper documentation to be imported. Those rule exist for a reason. It's not just the United States, almost every country has import rules that are supposed to be followed.

There is absolutely nothing you can do. Any lawyer that you're talking to should know this. I hope you're not paying anyone for a fruitless attempt at arguing your seeds were confiscated without cause. There is absolutely no legal recourse that is available to you. It's time to move on.

I use absolutely numerous times to make a point. It's absolute that there is nothing you can do.
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Are you absolutely sure
 
Rurumo

Rurumo

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Chicago ISC is the Bermuda Triangle of international seed orders. I've lost 3 orders to Chicago ISC-never received a package, they just show up on tracking as being at Chicago ISC until they time out 6 months later or whatever. I just got seeds from England in like 7 days, love it when that happens.
 
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orangejesus

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xtsho said:
But it's Shane Pennington. A top cannabis lawyer. Apparently he doesn't know anything about the importation of agricultural products or customs seizures.
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I can almost guarantee that once Mr. Pennington reviews the appropriate documentation he'll realize there's nothing to be done. In his email to the OP he even allows for that possibility. Despite what some of them may think, lawyers do not know everything - very possible no one has ever engaged Mr. Pennington (who is quoted in High Times by the way) on this specific issue.


The fact that the seeds are federally legal doesn’t necessarily and automatically mean that the seizures you’re describing are actionable in court. To determine whether and to what extent they are, I’d need more information. Can you send me any documentation? You mention that the Customs Center sends letters to folks whose seeds they seize explaining that the seeds are illegal etc. Do you have a copy that I could review?
 
xtsho

xtsho

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CashCrops said:
xtsho -
Disclaimer:
I have no formal education in plant science so do not take what I say as fact.
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Oh good grief. It's a fact that if your cannabis seeds are seized by customs you will not get them back. By the time you get a seizure letter they will have already been put in the incinerator and burned.

If you want to stay stuck on stupid then by all means carry on.

You forgot to quote the part of my signature that describes people like you.

Some of these people could screw up an anvil with a rubber hammer.
 
CashCrops

CashCrops

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Rurumo said:
Chicago ISC is the Bermuda Triangle of international seed orders. I've lost 3 orders to Chicago ISC-never received a package, they just show up on tracking as being at Chicago ISC until they time out 6 months later or whatever. I just got seeds from England in like 7 days, love it when that happens.
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Me too friend. I have lost many orders to customs. Thats why if there is anything that can be done (And it wont be easy) Im going to try!
 
CashCrops

CashCrops

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xtsho said:
Oh good grief. It's a fact that if your cannabis seeds are seized by customs you will not get them back. By the time you get a seizure letter they will have already been put in the incinerator and burned.

If you want to stay stuck on stupid then by all means carry on.

You forgot to quote the part of my signature that describes people like you.

Some of these people could screw up an anvil with a rubber hammer.
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Where in any of my posts did I say Im trying to get my seeds back?
 
CashCrops

CashCrops

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orangejesus said:
something can be done...
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Well, I spoke with council today and looks like the agriculture statues are what is going to be the up hill climb. As stated, the phytosanitary cert is the main problem and it's there to protect the US from invasive anything which I totally get. So then the problem is with the seed companies overseas as I understand it they cant get this certification no matter how clean and proper they are or if they follow all rules if they are cannabis/hemp companies. The only ones that can send product here and not have to follow the USDA rules are either part of research which they get on a list of safe senders because they only send to government agencies or to universities.

USDA regulates the importation of all seeds for planting to ensure safe agricultural trade. Hemp seeds can be imported into the United States from Canada if accompanied by either: (1) A phytosanitary certification from Canada's national plant protection organization to verify the origin of the seed and confirm that no plant pests are detected; or (2) a Federal Seed Analysis Certificate (SAC, PPQ Form 925) for hemp seeds grown in Canada. Hemp seeds imported into the United States from countries other than Canada may be accompanied by a phytosanitary certificate from the exporting country's national plant protection organization to verify the origin of the seed and confirm that no plant pests are detected. Accordingly, since importation of seed is covered under USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) regulations, this rule does not further address hemp seed imports or exports. For imports of hemp plant material, APHIS will have jurisdiction for any pest related issues if they arise.

With the many breeders right here in the US and the issues with some of the staff at places like Attitude and others buying local I have always suggested anyway. Ill keep researching it. It's my time to waste after all
 
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