Christian That Now Smokes Weed.

Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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txhazard said:
Hey Plume, the primary reason it is not allowed (main stream "Christianity") is it violates the law of the land as stated in the Bible. As a Christian i am to follow the law placed over me, however if the law of a government contradicts law of the Lord and or attempts to change what the Lord commands it then goes into the realm of violating the Lords Law which in turn supersedes man made government, prime example would be the US's stance against MJ.

There a lot of things that are okay to partake in as long as its done in moderation and not abused according to the bible.

Sorry not trying taking this thing into a debate, just wanted to give you some insight from a Christian who partakes in MJ. :)
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Does this include unjust laws? Like slavery or denying women the vote? Christians should seek to change unjust laws. The draconian Cannabis laws in the U.S. are unjust and unconstitutional. It has been proven to have medical benefit. Over and over again. The Lord commanded us to use the herbs of the field for healing and sustenance. Cannabis is a medicinal herb. Christians should defend the use of Cannabis. After all it was used during the time of Christ's advent on earth. Kaneh Bosm anyone? The oil from this plant was used as anointing oil. Christ himself may have used it during his ministry.

We, as Christians, need to shake off the shame that society tries to place on us for Cannabis use. Everyone in my family knows I use Cannabis as medication. My Mormon family. My devout, very strict Mormon family. I fought for years to help get medical Cannabis in New Mexico. I dealt with a lot of negative feedback from family, friends and associates. Most of them are now comfortable with it and see how beneficial it can be (It doesn't hurt that New Mexico's medical cannabis laws are very strict).

But like you said. All things in moderation. Abuse is abuse no matter how beneficial it is.
 
VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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Carne Seca said:
Does this include unjust laws? Like slavery or denying women the vote? Christians should seek to change unjust laws. The draconian Cannabis laws in the U.S. are unjust and unconstitutional. It has been proven to have medical benefit. Over and over again. The Lord commanded us to use the herbs of the field for healing and sustenance. Cannabis is a medicinal herb. Christians should defend the use of Cannabis. After all it was used during the time of Christ's advent on earth. Kaneh Bosm anyone? The oil from this plant was used as anointing oil. Christ himself may have used it during his ministry.

We, as Christians, need to shake off the shame that society tries to place on us for Cannabis use. Everyone in my family knows I use Cannabis as medication. My Mormon family. My devout, very strict Mormon family. I fought for years to help get medical Cannabis in New Mexico. I dealt with a lot of negative feedback from family, friends and associates. Most of them are now comfortable with it and see how beneficial it can be (It doesn't hurt that New Mexico's medical cannabis laws are very strict).

But like you said. All things in moderation. Abuse is abuse no matter how beneficial it is.
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I agree, Christians should be fighting to legalize.

The more I read into the history of cannabis hemp, the more I understand why greedy companies want it illegal.

Hemp can be utilized for 25,000 very durable textile products, ranging from paper and clothing to biofuels (from the oils found in the seeds), medicines and construction material. Hemp has been used by many civilizations, from China to Europe (and later North America) for the last 12,000 years of history.
 
BendBrewer

BendBrewer

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To say Marijuana is bad is to say that God made a mistake.

Like on the seventh day God looked down, "There it is. My Creation, perfect and holy in all ways. Now I can rest. [Gives shocked expression] Oh my Me! I left fuckin' pot everywhere. I should never have smoked that joint on the third day. Hehe, that was the day I created the possum. Still gives me a chuckle. But if I leave pot everywhere, that's gonna give people the impression they're supposed to … use it. Now I have to create Republicans." " … and God wept", I believe is the next part of that story.
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karri0n

karri0n

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BendBrewer said:
Like on the seventh day God looked down, "There it is. My Creation, perfect and holy in all ways. Now I can rest. [Gives shocked expression] Oh my Me! I left fuckin' pot everywhere. I should never have smoked that joint on the third day. Hehe, that was the day I created the possum. Still gives me a chuckle. But if I leave pot everywhere, that's gonna give people the impression they're supposed to … use it. Now I have to create Republicans." " … and God wept", I believe is the next part of that story.
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I heard from a quite reliable source that this is EXACTLY how it went down.
 
txhazard

txhazard

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Carne Seca said:
Does this include unjust laws? Like slavery or denying women the vote? Christians should seek to change unjust laws.
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Sorry i was away from the forums for a little bit thus my non reply. :)

When you go into the realm of slavery its sort of a confusing situation, especially if one does not study his bible.

Let me give you the in a nut shell version.

Taking man and forcing him into slavery is wrong very wrong. "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 21:16)

Slavery was a way for you to repay a debt to another, you would enter the contract willfully as a way to work you debt down or off. There are guidelines on the master/slave relationship, and that was to treat your slave(s) with respect.

When we here slavery we immediately go to the 17th century in our minds when Africans were forcibly removed and forced into slavery. Which is bad. :)

It was much different in old testament era (old law), which as we (or anybody who is somewhat privy to history) know was a very different time and place. (Not there was not forced slavery)

There are strict guide lines in the bible on slavery couple examples:

"If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished." (Exodus 21:20)

"If a man strikes the eye of his male or female slave, and destroys it, he shall let him go free on account of his eye. "And if he knocks out a tooth of his male or female slave, he shall let him go free on account of his tooth." (Exodus 21:26-27)

"He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 21:12)

I can keep going on with this discussion if you would like Carne, i do like to talk scripture. Hope this gives you some insight, and yes that was copied and pasted dont want to hunt down each verse and type it up. ;)
 
cannabis420420

cannabis420420

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VILEPLUME said:
Hi guys,

I just joined here and saw this section for spirituality and thought I would post.

As many people know, a lot of Christians are against cannabis. They say, it is a gateway drug, it is harmful to your body and it against God's law. I fell into this belief for a long time.

It wasn't until recently that I began to question if weed was infact a sin. It started when I watched the documentary called "The Union", it was very easy to follow and I thought was very well paced for a documentary. It gave the facts quick and questioned both sides of the controversy.

What struck me the hardest was finding out that cannabis smoke alone is very safe and is in all honesty a natural drug. For a long time I have been using sleep aids that have side effects, but finding out that weed has almost no side effects has made me want to change.

I dont smoke it often, mostly when I cant sleep the odd night or when friends come over that also smoke weed. I believe in moderation, but that goes with a lot of other things as well.

Christians will also say that it is highly addictive, yet alcohol and caffeine are rated more addictive than cannabis. I myself don't feel the need every day to smoke it, so I guess that theory goes out the window.

What I find funny is Christians that are overweight or have to drink coffee every morning look down on people that smoke weed once and awhile, yet what is more addictive and doing more damage to your body?

Anyways, that is just how I feel and what I believe. I have read the entire bible as well and I am well versed in it. I can always study it more and I do not claim to have all the answers, but I think I have a firm grasp on what it says.

For what it is worth, I believe that using cannabis is not a sin and if it is not ruining your life, I see no problems with using it.

Also, from what I have been reading on the forums, most people here are very relaxed, helpful and friendly. I am looking forward to being a part of this community. Thanks for reading.
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smoking weed is not a sin its just smoking weed in the bible it says """"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.""""""" :D to consume ----use :D :D
 
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fishwhistle

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I have a friend that goes to one of those big box churches that has like 5000 members,its actually very well known in so cal and he moves about 4 lbs every WEEK and almost all of it goes to church members,including many staff members,junior pastor's and one VERY well known pastor.Sometimes i think he pays tithes to be their personal dealer LOL.You are not alone or special you are just not embarassed to say you burn and they are.
 
VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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fishwhistle said:
I have a friend that goes to one of those big box churches that has like 5000 members,its actually very well known in so cal and he moves about 4 lbs every WEEK and almost all of it goes to church members,including many staff members,junior pastor's and one VERY well known pastor.Sometimes i think he pays tithes to be their personal dealer LOL.You are not alone or special you are just not embarassed to say you burn and they are.
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Wow, you have to tell me what church this is.

I agree, I like to be out in the open with what I believe and not live in the closet. I mean, if i am in the closet, how do I get my weed? Wait, I do grow it in my closet...so I guess that analogy failed lol.
 
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fishwhistle

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The point of my post is not to out anybody or their church,i just think its hypocritical of them to judge anyone else for what they do,i mean what happened to"judge not lest ye be judged''?Some of these so called mega churches as their known are big businesses and the people running them have to present a certain persona to the public,kinda like reality TV.If you knew your pastor was burning and sleeping with the young people in their congregation what would you think of them when they told you not to do it from the pulpit?Would you still give them your money?These people live exactly like rock stars driving porsches and mercedes and living in multi million dollar mansions(I know i am at their homes alot doing work),money ultimately corrupts everyone.I personally dont care what they do because i dont give them my money,my church is in the woods or floating out on a lake somewhere in a beautiful spot that god created not worshipping a false prophet in a megamall style building complete with a starbucks!Now slip another 10$ bill into the collection plate as pastor's 19 yr old girlfriend needs a new BMW to keep her legs open and mouth shut and remember the lyrics to that song,EVERYBODY MUST GET STONED...
 
htx23

htx23

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Im a christian and i love to smoke!!!! I read the bible when im high.. its really intresting ya should try it i get into the stories so much! theres nothing wrong with maryjane God created for a good reason.... to smoke it! as long as you believe and have your priorities straight your good.. smoke all you want.
 
ink the world

ink the world

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So because "God" created marijuana it makes it OK?

"God" also created the Opium poppy, is smack ok too?
How about arsenic "God" created that too right?

The idea that you need a pastor, preacher or child molester (priest) to tell you if something is OK is really sad.
 
karri0n

karri0n

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ink the world said:
So because "God" created marijuana it makes it OK?

"God" also created the Opium poppy, is smack ok too?
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The gods made poppies. Man made smack(heroin).

If you want to get technical, it's only through selective breeding and cultivation that Marijuana OR opium poppies exist in the forms you see today. The ones made by nature, had they never been tampered with, would be far less effective.
 
VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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ink the world said:
So because "God" created marijuana it makes it OK?

"God" also created the Opium poppy, is smack ok too?
How about arsenic "God" created that too right?

The idea that you need a pastor, preacher or child molester (priest) to tell you if something is OK is really sad.
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I think it comes down to "is it hurting anyone"? Yes, a lot of things can hurt you, but weed hurts no one.

He said his pastor told him it is ok to smoke weed? What church was that lol.
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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VILEPLUME said:
Hi guys,

I just joined here and saw this section for spirituality and thought I would post.

As many people know, a lot of Christians are against cannabis. They say, it is a gateway drug, it is harmful to your body and it against God's law. I fell into this belief for a long time.

It wasn't until recently that I began to question if weed was infact a sin. It started when I watched the documentary called "The Union", it was very easy to follow and I thought was very well paced for a documentary. It gave the facts quick and questioned both sides of the controversy.

What struck me the hardest was finding out that cannabis smoke alone is very safe and is in all honesty a natural drug. For a long time I have been using sleep aids that have side effects, but finding out that weed has almost no side effects has made me want to change.

I dont smoke it often, mostly when I cant sleep the odd night or when friends come over that also smoke weed. I believe in moderation, but that goes with a lot of other things as well.

Christians will also say that it is highly addictive, yet alcohol and caffeine are rated more addictive than cannabis. I myself don't feel the need every day to smoke it, so I guess that theory goes out the window.

What I find funny is Christians that are overweight or have to drink coffee every morning look down on people that smoke weed once and awhile, yet what is more addictive and doing more damage to your body?

Anyways, that is just how I feel and what I believe. I have read the entire bible as well and I am well versed in it. I can always study it more and I do not claim to have all the answers, but I think I have a firm grasp on what it says.

For what it is worth, I believe that using cannabis is not a sin and if it is not ruining your life, I see no problems with using it.

Also, from what I have been reading on the forums, most people here are very relaxed, helpful and friendly. I am looking forward to being a part of this community. Thanks for reading.
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what you want to be worrying about is wether or not your religion is actualy real and true and actualy exists before questiong it wether it thinks you gettin high is ok .
 
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doser

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Most Chrisians look down their noses at almost anything they don't agree with
just can't hang with that kind of thinking myself
I call it arrogance and summarilly reject the concept
 
crackerboy

crackerboy

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karri0n said:
The gods made poppies. Man made smack(heroin).

If you want to get technical, it's only through selective breeding and cultivation that Marijuana OR opium poppies exist in the forms you see today. The ones made by nature, had they never been tampered with, would be far less effective.
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I agree, God made everything and said that it was good. But He then went on to warn us about moderation and self control. Everything has its purpose, but if abused or used with ill intent than they may have negative side effects.
 
UnbridledCannabis

UnbridledCannabis

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im right there with you OP. i went 22 years before i did the research myself and discovered its damn near the safest thing out there. and to be quite honest, my most profound discoveries in the Bible ive made ive been high. God likes weed, im sure of it lol
 
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xKuroiTaimax

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VILEPLUME said:
Hi guys,

I just joined here and saw this section for spirituality and thought I would post.

As many people know, a lot of Christians are against cannabis. They say, it is a gateway drug, it is harmful to your body and it against God's law. I fell into this belief for a long time.

It wasn't until recently that I began to question if weed was infact a sin. It started when I watched the documentary called "The Union", it was very easy to follow and I thought was very well paced for a documentary. It gave the facts quick and questioned both sides of the controversy.

What struck me the hardest was finding out that cannabis smoke alone is very safe and is in all honesty a natural drug. For a long time I have been using sleep aids that have side effects, but finding out that weed has almost no side effects has made me want to change.

I dont smoke it often, mostly when I cant sleep the odd night or when friends come over that also smoke weed. I believe in moderation, but that goes with a lot of other things as well.

Christians will also say that it is highly addictive, yet alcohol and caffeine are rated more addictive than cannabis. I myself don't feel the need every day to smoke it, so I guess that theory goes out the window.

What I find funny is Christians that are overweight or have to drink coffee every morning look down on people that smoke weed once and awhile, yet what is more addictive and doing more damage to your body?

Anyways, that is just how I feel and what I believe. I have read the entire bible as well and I am well versed in it. I can always study it more and I do not claim to have all the answers, but I think I have a firm grasp on what it says.

For what it is worth, I believe that using cannabis is not a sin and if it is not ruining your life, I see no problems with using it.

Also, from what I have been reading on the forums, most people here are very relaxed, helpful and friendly. I am looking forward to being a part of this community. Thanks for reading.
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I totally agree with you. Esecially about alcohol and caffeine abuse and the sin of gluttony. I think me smoking and doing 4 kinds of high impact exercise/community service a week is better that a selfrighteous 'christian' who eats too much and spends more time hurling caffeine/pharmaceutical-fuelled judgements rather than living the full life God intended. Jeremiah 29:11
 
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