eastcoastled

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Any idea on the time window for taking clones from 12/12?
I would say as soon as possible/there is one to take. I have never done 12/12 from seed, but I generally like to take my clones a week or two into flower. They definitely root much faster than veg, but it can be risky. I have been successful with clones even 5 weeks into flower, but after that it gets much harder. It’s much easier with Larf than with with solid buds.....If the buds are pronounced, it’s almost impossible in my experience. I’m sure success rates would go up with a cloner , but I just use a humidity dome and root riot cubes with generally 90% or better success rate.
 

too larry

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Looked the lvtk buds over that I just harvested that got hit with a little tangerine power pollen and found at least 11-12 nice brown beans and the pale looking ones look like they have a chance of popping too. At least I know I've bought seeds that looked just as pale, most notably being hazeman's grapes 13, and they've popped so we'll see.

Stoked so far though because I know the lvtk at least makes nice looking beans. Shucking the beans is gonna be a pain in the arse though, these seeds are glued into the husk for the most part. Even the ones bursting out of the husk are stuck in there nicely too.
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You may not want an credit in this cross, but my Clear {Oregon's Best Bag Seed} got a touch of your TP pollen. I made a dozen or so Clear TP seeds.
 

SSGrower

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Is the yield worth the time you spent? Are the finished buds 'mature' finished buds? I don't even know if it's a thing, but other than yield, do you lose any quality by going straight to 12/12 ? Only asking 'cause I don't know.
Great philosophical question
If you consider yield to be weight of flower then in order to minimize the loss container size is probably the most important consideration, 1-2 gal probably ideal, the Graveyard Whisperer coming up is in 1.5gal with 41ish day veg. These were in 16 oz party cups and 4.5in square pots (.25 gal maybe). The yield of knowledge about the growth habit and needs of the plant, is it a heavy/light feeder, how long to flower, what stresses it....that outweighs the roughly 25ish gram yield. Also, I know now the other 7 seeds are going to be worth the effort and resources. I also like to reveg the 12/12 from seed so there are options for maximizing the effort.

Time wise I'd say up and to about 4 or 5 weeks into 12/12 from seed would be the limit for taking clones. Also speaking time wise a plant vegged for 3 weeks would probably finish within about a week of one done 12/12 from seed.

I don't think there is a necissarily a quality difference, but there is a contraction of time for reacting to issues, so that can impact quality.
GW#1
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GW #2 (cut ar 51ish days flower)
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The 2 different phenos of gw I have are going to get fine tuned next run.
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Clones are same age and were roughly same size when cut, #1 was first to root and has been topped to slow it down but still says no, feed me. Both were heavy feeders but #1 more so than #2, that is part of what snuck up on me, it stopped/slowed feeding and I didn't catch it so it didn't get a chance to fade.

Thumbnails just for you @CoB_nUt :fire::bigjoint::peace:
 

SSGrower

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If I were pro I'd use an actual camera and compress them. I do realize it can be difficult to browse on a mobile or slow connection so will try to be considerate.
 

CoB_nUt

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I'd hate to be in your shoes. Can you prune them down to say,just a couple of budsites,flower em till sacs burst and harvest some pollen from the ones you wanna keep?

Edit* Nevermind, that's 10 dudes! I thought it was only 4. Hadn't blown the pic up.
 
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