Chunky Stool

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Well, you were the one to point out my dudded Fatso cut, which screwed up my entire garden.
You certainly know what's up.

Do you believe the nematodes are a carrier of the virus, or maybe there is no virus?
You should PM me your user name over there, I would like to learn more.
It's my understanding that the disease is spread mostly by reusing dirty pots and cross-contamination during pruning.
It can also be spread by contaminated runoff and non-sterile clone machines.

Is that accurate?

I'm going to start a new grow soon from seed and really want dudding to be nothing but a bad memory.

I've culled most of the Tony Green GG4 recombinant plants, so $100 just went *poof*

The 'chem cookie trip' plants by Useful are also looking suspicious. :shock:

This is really starting to suck...
 

idlewilder

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It's my understanding that the disease is spread mostly by reusing dirty pots and cross-contamination during pruning.
It can also be spread by contaminated runoff and non-sterile clone machines.

Is that accurate?

I'm going to start a new grow soon from seed and really want dudding to be nothing but a bad memory.

I've culled most of the Tony Green GG4 recombinant plants, so $100 just went *poof*

The 'chem cookie trip' plants by Useful are also looking suspicious. :shock:

This is really starting to suck...
How were the RIL doing prior? I have a pack to run through at some point
 

colocowboy

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ECSD is absolutely not an outcross from Dr GT. He made s1s with it. ECSD was being worked by rez before Dr GT even sold seeds.

ECSD is the real sour. EC was added because there was a different diesel out west going around in the overgrow/cc days, to differentiate.

knowledge

I'm sure that the cut I got a decade ago is one set of hands removed from Chaco. I gave it to a friend to hold while I got a new spot lined up. He tried giving it back to me with thrips so I hit up shoreline.

The second I looked at the fans and petiole color on the snips I got from Shoreline I was 99% sure its the same. Then it took 10 days to shoot 3 bullshit wispy root hairs, I knew 100%.

I've met a fair number of the frequent posters in the ECSD thread at an event in 2013 or 2014. There were a few people that would draw crowds today just chillin, not worried about wearing branded hats and shit like they do now.

If what we all call sour d isn't sour d, it makes me question what I've been doing with my life lol.
I’m sorry but I don’t see anything your saying as definitively refuting what I’m saying other than your opinion that it makes you question your understanding, not sure how that affects me stating the facts. I been knowing and growing an awful long time as well my good man! Not worth arguing over, anyone can do a little research and find what I’m saying, I have grown out both and understand this to be the case. I can also agree that one, particularly one that has limited experience, would not be able to tell much difference. I would argue that everything from the high to growth characteristics are different, subtly but different.
 

quiescent

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I’m sorry but I don’t see anything your saying as definitively refuting what I’m saying other than your opinion that it makes you question your understanding, not sure how that affects me stating the facts. I been knowing and growing an awful long time as well my good man! Not worth arguing over, anyone can do a little research and find what I’m saying, I have grown out both and understand this to be the case. I can also agree that one, particularly one that has limited experience, would not be able to tell much difference. I would argue that everything from the high to growth characteristics are different, subtly but different.
Are you serious?

Dr GT made the sour diesel clone only?

Not the guys in New York with hours of podcasts telling their story with multiple key figures in the American scene corroborating it, pages of threads discussing the topic?

ecsd is sour diesel. You can think whatever you want but you're proving how much you don't know, fellow old timer. Stick to the science lessons, you're out of your element.
 

colocowboy

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Are you serious?

Dr GT made the sour diesel clone only?

Not the guys in New York with hours of podcasts telling their story with multiple key figures in the American scene corroborating it, pages of threads discussing the topic?

ecsd is sour diesel. You can think whatever you want but you're proving how much you don't know, fellow old timer. Stick to the science lessons, you're out of your element.
I didn’t say that he made the clone only and now you’re just talking trash to “prove a point”, I listened to the same story from podcast, it’s also known that this clone isn’t that clone. Which is what I said.
 

quiescent

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I didn’t say that he made the clone only and now you’re just talking trash to “prove a point”, I listened to the same story from podcast, it’s also known that this clone isn’t that clone. Which is what I said.
Ecsd is THE sour diesel. Take AJs out of the equation because it isn't sour diesel.

So somehow this guy who is in Canada snuck into a grow room in NY in the 90s and made ecsd for them. Then that was spread to the Chem family, who gave it to rez, who made his lines with it before the Canadian who made the clone started selling s1s. That's how it went?

There's a whole 180 page thread that would show you the light of you're willing to step out of your alternate reality. You're telling Ken Burns the American high school history book version of Vietnam after eating acid. I've talked to these people, in person.
 

JewelRunner

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Ecsd is THE sour diesel. Take AJs out of the equation because it isn't sour diesel.

So somehow this guy who is in Canada snuck into a grow room in NY in the 90s and made ecsd for them. Then that was spread to the Chem family, who gave it to rez, who made his lines with it before the Canadian who made the clone started selling s1s. That's how it went?

There's a whole 180 page thread that would show you the light of you're willing to step out of your alternate reality. You're telling Ken Burns the American high school history book version of Vietnam after eating acid. I've talked to these people, in person.
I just want to know if I have the ecsd or not and this topic is still contentious AF going on over a decade :? Same this is that or no you’re wrong. I’d guess what I have is chem 91 x skunk or skunk nl. No Hawaiian influence imo
 

colocowboy

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Ecsd is THE sour diesel. Take AJs out of the equation because it isn't sour diesel.

So somehow this guy who is in Canada snuck into a grow room in NY in the 90s and made ecsd for them. Then that was spread to the Chem family, who gave it to rez, who made his lines with it before the Canadian who made the clone started selling s1s. That's how it went?

There's a whole 180 page thread that would show you the light of you're willing to step out of your alternate reality. You're telling Ken Burns the American high school history book version of Vietnam after eating acid. I've talked to these people, in person.
your a dick waver, not to mention that you take everything out of context and say things I didn’t say. For someone that has no respect for words I will only offer silence. Opinions are like ass holes everyone has one and they all stink.
 
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Aheadatime

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It's my understanding that the disease is spread mostly by reusing dirty pots and cross-contamination during pruning.
It can also be spread by contaminated runoff and non-sterile clone machines.

Is that accurate?

I'm going to start a new grow soon from seed and really want dudding to be nothing but a bad memory.

I've culled most of the Tony Green GG4 recombinant plants, so $100 just went *poof*

The 'chem cookie trip' plants by Useful are also looking suspicious. :shock:

This is really starting to suck...
If you have hplvd, then yes. It's spread by roots, pots, trimmers, basically anything that allows plants to make contact. This is worse with trimmers and roots, as they contact parts of the plants that are exposed (cut plant material, open roots, etc). You've gotta kill all the plants that have it or have been in contact with it, disinfect everything with a 10% bleach solution, and I'd also recommend getting new trimmers, pots, drip tubing, etc. It can be stressful at first, but it's not terribly hard to beat it. You've just gotta accept killing your plants and then put in the work to really thoroughly clean everything.
 

higher self

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Back to chuckin! Feels good to run your own crosses & f2's. Had a good few runs with my Double Jamaican crosses & f2's. At 1st I wasn't sure if there was a seed mix up in the shipping from Spain bc I got something different than the breeder description, the f2's showed me I had the right strain lol!

Currently reversing my Tropic Heat (OGKB x Purple Punch), pina colada pheno as I call it. Hitting it to herself for S1's & to my Cannarado Sunshine Phucker (Lemon G x Lambsbread), the latter smells like spicy candy lemon diesel.

Do a search on Sunshine Phucker & you will read about me saying how awful the terps were lol. Thats why I've been giving some of my past grown another shot bc the finished product grown under better conditions ended up being keeper quality for me.

After this I might reverse the Sunshine Phucker to Jamaican Dream. The Jamaican Dream finishes early, had to cut at around 50 days & it was still some decent sativa smoke. The Jamaican Dream could use the terps from the SP & the SP could use the dense bud structure of the Jamaican Dream

I don't know why I'm running Jamaican genetics soo much but they & crosses have all been mold resistant, which I need badly in warmer months.
 

blueberryrose

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Collecting pollen again, this time from this guy
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lots of pollen
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This is the best male I got from my lot of Bodhi Banana Spliff. In a few days I'll drink a glass of port, and treat my 4 Banana Spliff females with a careful dusting of this pollen. Shit, make it a big enough glass of port, and I'll chuck some on my Seedsman White Widow too.
I'll save enough pollen as well for a future run with my GPS Cake N Chem cut.
 
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