church member with cancer and found why im there

i just went to a new church and have found myself in quite some stuff. theres a couple reasons for me being there. so the focus is broad, just from the conversation with the pastor i now have to start putting out what i was given instead of just watch. preaching,praise and worship, and there is a women with cancer and ive suggested it too someone with a daughter who has cancer coming back while being a cashier. but how does one go about at this in the church? i know im supposed to say something but i am severly hestitant because this is church and you know how things go with that. what can i do or how can i approach her and her family about this? the other stuff is easier to take care of.

Can you rephrase the question please? I don't understand.

are you trying to introduce marijuana to her for cancer?

hthang93 said:

are you trying to introduce marijuana to her for cancer?

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I believe thats the direction hes going with it. Also that hes feeling led to this congregation for that purpose. Would like to hear more about it from him tho for sure.

Well first god will deside how it will go down, but in this state of health i believe thier are people that look for all kinds of answers specialy at this part of life cancer is very hard to deal with i lost my aint to cancer but if you sugest this it is just a sujection, and i go to church but over the holidays till today i let work get in the way.... the outdoor market kinda messes things up around hear so i have to work twice as hard.. shops arent nice about maken money... and mess a person up... but i will tell you what people tell me because i vend to some of the church goers i have to say that its a fine line and some people are open and some aint but i can tell you is just talk to that one person.. not the hole church... and thier was a women WINTER WOMEN who had a problem about the same thing and the pastor went off on her or something like that but its a touchie subject i my self dont care what they think im thier for god and to see if the pastor touches in the areas that trouble me on my path 9 out of ten he does but every once in a while he'll throw in '' joint '' guilt trip.. good luck.. its a hard one i have been fighting that very thought for years..

thanks man, yes the subject is weed and cancer, im at the church for more than that ad ive stated before. they always love people to join and bring a new thing into their church for praise and worship and preaching. something to make things a little different. the weed thing is hard, its for the one woman, im their for what God wants me to do its just hard to even bring such a thing up because i was once in the same position. "I do not know if i should consume weed for pain." im getting the sense it might come back or it is back [cancer].

silasraven said:

thanks man, yes the subject is weed and cancer, im at the church for more than that ad ive stated before. they always love people to join and bring a new thing into their church for praise and worship and preaching. something to make things a little different. the weed thing is hard, its for the one woman, im their for what God wants me to do its just hard to even bring such a thing up because i was once in the same position. "I do not know if i should consume weed for pain." im getting the sense it might come back or it is back [cancer].

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Are you saying that you have cancer and you want to smoke to ease the suffering, or are you saying there is someone else who has cancer and you think introducing them to cannabis may help ease their pain, but you are unsure of how to present yourself?

I'm still a little confused.

Zaehet Strife said:

Are you saying that you have cancer and you want to smoke to ease the suffering, or someone else?

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are you making fun of me? no i dont, its for the church lady. but she has a daughter and husband. he hair is growing back from the looks, its very much a dont want to step in but feel like i have to say something.

No, i am not making fun of you, merely trying to understand the situation.

Then if i were you, i would wait for an opportunity for you two to be alone without anyone around who can overhear (that is so important because an individuals self image is extremely precious to them) then offer her some advice.

Tell her you know someone that has tried smoking or ingesting cannabis and it helped with the pain. Ask her if she has ever tried it, and if she want's to try it to see how it effects her and that you would be happy to help, that you just care about her and don't want to see her in pain.

yea just get her to her self and see what she thinks about it.

The church i attend is also pretty anti-cannabis, or at least i would assume, never heard it mentioned personally, but they are very anti drinking. However, personally, I find no conflict at all with cannabis and Christianity. The argument could be made that it lowers your moral standards in other peoples views which could defame your congregation but i feel like that is a stretch. Its one of those things that, if someone approves of you, not knowing that you use, but then disapproves after learning that you use despite the fact that nothing else about you is different, makes me adjust how high i hold there opinion. It is what you do while using drugs/alcohol/prescriptions/nothing that defines you.

Kinda off topic but it was on the same subject. It is a tricky subject in that situation, well cannabis is a tricky in any situation but even more so when you are dealing social stigma from years of government propaganda. Believe it or not a lot of middle aged and older people still trust the gov and think it has their best internists as Americans in mind.

DonPepe said:

The church i attend is also pretty anti-cannabis, or at least i would assume, never heard it mentioned personally, but they are very anti drinking. However, personally, I find no conflict at all with cannabis and Christianity. The argument could be made that it lowers your moral standards in other peoples views which could defame your congregation but i feel like that is a stretch. Its one of those things that, if someone approves of you, not knowing that you use, but then disapproves after learning that you use despite the fact that nothing else about you is different, makes me adjust how high i hold there opinion. It is what you do while using drugs/alcohol/prescriptions/nothing that defines you.Kinda off topic but it was on the same subject. It is a tricky subject in that situation, well cannabis is a tricky in any situation but even more so when you are dealing social stigma from years of government propaganda. Believe it or not a lot of middle aged and older people still trust the gov and think it has their best internists as Americans in mind.

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I think this situation goes beyond the stigmas of social use. If it could be made to understand and accept that there are legitimate med uses for the cannabis plant in part or in whole, acceptance would be far more likely.

hi silas. i tried to post this earlier but apparently it didnt make it through. sorry bout that, should have verified. what i had said was maybe a good idea would be to have available some testimonials or any verifiable positive research. maybe give her a link to rick simpsons youtube channel for the "run for the cure" vids. possibly even mention that if there was any substance to the feds claims that cannabis has no med value they wouldnt have bothered paying for a 20 yr med patent on it. us patent # 6630507. basicly, give her things she or fam members can research and verify for her/themselves. it would also be a good idea to try and find out (fer sure) particulars of her condition. did chemo help? is she in remission? is the growth/s active again? also you might want to approach her with her husband present or possibly do so with your wife with you (you know how church folks can be), dont leave room for any kind of adverse speculation towards her or you from anyone. peace

thanks all for the comments.her and her family were not there. im currently watching the church on how things are and go. some what receptive to me and some not. the pastor is reserved of me. I'll see what i can do. its a church where im sure they don't mind drinking or more accepted methods of doctors and meds. the other half might be easier than i think. sing old hymens with different way of singing them. and preaching uhh well moses studerd jesus spoke fluent and some of the disciples sounded like psychos going out of this world. so this should be a little easier.

Tell her, while alone with her, you have a suggestion that has helped many people with their suffering from the terrible disease. Tell her it is a bit of touchy subject for some people and make it kind of obvious before you actually say what that it's cannabis, by her initial reaction you should be able to tell if it is a subject she'd be open to.

Bring up the facts about medicinal marijuana, go in with an open mind and don't be offended by anything they may say. It is commonly taught in church that marijuana is a horrible drug, so make sure you go in with the facts about using it medicinally.

Well, did you talk to her...??? Don't leave us hangin bro.

Zaehet Strife said:

Well, did you talk to her...??? Don't leave us hangin bro.

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im thinkin he will bring it up to her this morning. hoping for receptiveness and not the "stinkin thinkin" that church can produce.

Zaehet Strife said:

Well, did you talk to her...??? Don't leave us hangin bro.

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don't hold your breath

mysunnyboy said:

don't hold your breath

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I'm still waiting to see if he talked to her, or not... and either why, or what happened. He asked our advice, and doesn't have the courtesy to tell us how it went?

How rude...