Citrus Decarboxylation with a Blender

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loopieblunt

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I believe it takes a while for the citric acid to break down the THCA into THC Ive read to let it soak for a week or so.?
AirAnt said:
So I'm experimenting making smoothies and shakes and stuff with cannabis in a blender. Cannabis has a taste and can be used kind of like spinach, and has as a lot of nutritional value. Well I bought a blender and it arrived yesterday and I just made my first concoction ever with ice, blueberries, banana, mango, lemon juice, molasses, cannabis leaves, and banana-strawberry yogurt.

Turned out pretty good, like a fruit pudding. I'm quite satisfied with it but can think of several ways to try to improve the next to make it more drink-like. Using grape or pineapple juice rather than yogurt and crushing the ice first before adding any other ingredients will probably help. That's not the point of this thread though; to discuss fruit blending.

I've heard that cannabis can be decarboxylated (rendered psychoactive) by blending it into citrus.

Does anyone have any experience with doing this to know if it's true or not? I was thinking that if it was plausible, i'd grind a bunch of cannabis (actual buds) and lemon or grapefruit juice, strain it, and then add the ice and then all the other ingredients.

So what do you think? Is it scientifically sound to expect the grinding of a 1000w blender to create enough friction to heat a cannabis mixture past 200 degrees, activating it's cannabinoids and thus making a psychoactive smoothie?
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I believe it takes a while for the citric acid to break down the THCA into THC I've read to let it soak for a week or so.?
 
fumble

fumble

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Texas(THC) said:
Hey AirAnt
you need to go to BadKittySmiles thread
close to the bottom of the 1st page
Citric Acid Extractions

yes apparently all you need is the blender and citric acid

but I like to watch oil decarb like snaps suggested
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I tried BadKats citric extraction years ago. I can't remember the effect or anything, but the citric acid did change the consistency of the hash ...kief...i used. It mixed with the citric acid and I was able to roll I into a nice hash ball. I believe that maybe there was some kind of chemical reaction between the two creating a mild heat. So it kind of makes sense to me that the action of the blender would create the ssme kind of thing. ImIdef no scientist though
 
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USMCgreen

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The purpose of the citric acid is to chemically break the carboxyl, COOH, bond, thus changing the Cannabinoids from their Acid form into the forms that provide the medicinal properties. Though most processes will add heat to speed up the process or dry out the plant material, it is not required for the decarb to work. The problem is the taste, especially if you use too much citric acid or vinegar, which I dislike using because of the taste. I have done concentrates using this method as well as regular infusion into grape seed oil. The citric acid takes time to break the bond and most likely any euphoric feeling felt with quick recipes is from the slow decarb that happens during the drying and curing process, but the percent of cannabinoids that are not in acid form is minimal compared to after decarb. I have been experimenting with no heat decarb processes to retain the terpines as much as possible to keep the flavor and smell. Decarbed material using heat takes that fresh flowery aroma and flavor away, for the most part. I am far from a pro or chemist and do everything through experimentation. Have had good concentrations and bad. Just keep reading, learning, and experimenting. I made a sort of citrusy sugar powder that I can mix into drinks. It causes a fizzy foamy reaction, but a few tsp’s and you can feel it after about an hour. Like I said, every batch is different in potency...so test a small amount each time...I have had batches that I could barely feel after a whole mL and others that have put me on my ass after a few sublingual drops...lol...good luck and canna on!
 
fumble

fumble

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USMCgreen said:
The purpose of the citric acid is to chemically break the carboxyl, COOH, bond, thus changing the Cannabinoids from their Acid form into the forms that provide the medicinal properties. Though most processes will add heat to speed up the process or dry out the plant material, it is not required for the decarb to work. The problem is the taste, especially if you use too much citric acid or vinegar, which I dislike using because of the taste. I have done concentrates using this method as well as regular infusion into grape seed oil. The citric acid takes time to break the bond and most likely any euphoric feeling felt with quick recipes is from the slow decarb that happens during the drying and curing process, but the percent of cannabinoids that are not in acid form is minimal compared to after decarb. I have been experimenting with no heat decarb processes to retain the terpines as much as possible to keep the flavor and smell. Decarbed material using heat takes that fresh flowery aroma and flavor away, for the most part. I am far from a pro or chemist and do everything through experimentation. Have had good concentrations and bad. Just keep reading, learning, and experimenting. I made a sort of citrusy sugar powder that I can mix into drinks. It causes a fizzy foamy reaction, but a few tsp’s and you can feel it after about an hour. Like I said, every batch is different in potency...so test a small amount each time...I have had batches that I could barely feel after a whole mL and others that have put me on my ass after a few sublingual drops...lol...good luck and canna on!
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Great info...thank you. I just got a new bottle of citric acid, so I may just do some experimenting.
 
Zinger59

Zinger59

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AirAnt said:
So I'm experimenting making smoothies and shakes and stuff with cannabis in a blender. Cannabis has a taste and can be used kind of like spinach, and has as a lot of nutritional value. Well I bought a blender and it arrived yesterday and I just made my first concoction ever with ice, blueberries, banana, mango, lemon juice, molasses, cannabis leaves, and banana-strawberry yogurt.

Turned out pretty good, like a fruit pudding. I'm quite satisfied with it but can think of several ways to try to improve the next to make it more drink-like. Using grape or pineapple juice rather than yogurt and crushing the ice first before adding any other ingredients will probably help. That's not the point of this thread though; to discuss fruit blending.

I've heard that cannabis can be decarboxylated (rendered psychoactive) by blending it into citrus.

Does anyone have any experience with doing this to know if it's true or not? I was thinking that if it was plausible, i'd grind a bunch of cannabis (actual buds) and lemon or grapefruit juice, strain it, and then add the ice and then all the other ingredients.

So what do you think? Is it scientifically sound to expect the grinding of a 1000w blender to create enough friction to heat a cannabis mixture past 200 degrees, activating it's cannabinoids and thus making a psychoactive smoothie?
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Unless the citric acid causes the chemical reaction as heating in an oven would, I doubt it. The H2O in the pot has to evaporate for the reaction to happen I believe.
 
Zinger59

Zinger59

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Zinger59 said:
Unless the citric acid causes the chemical reaction as heating in an oven would, I doubt it. The H2O in the pot has to evaporate for the reaction to happen I believe.
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Reading other replies proves how much there is to learn.
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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fumble said:
Hey C2G how've you been? Doing pretty good here... getting ready for the new season. Hope all is well with you
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I'm doing well thanks! My biggest problem is I have a plant that's to pretty for me to chop :lol: if only all my problems could be that tough! I hope you have a GREAT season this year.
 
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