Clarification on Aeroponics

Its only a name, if your happy with what you get thats all that really counts

As far as a Clarification on Aeroponics is concerned, most aero growers agree the Atomix delivers truely aeroponic results.
Meet the same criteria as the atomix and your system has the same aeroponic potential and therefore must be truely aeroponic ..seems reasonable.

So how does it stack up?
1. The droplet sizes need to be in the range of 5-80 micron, nothing below 5 with the majority falling between 30 and 80 micron. (The atomix doesnt subscribe to the 50 micron droplet nasa malarky)
2. The root chamber needs to be maintained with a mist concentration not exceeding 0.9ml per 100L of chamber volume, and, with the mist comprised entirely of droplets in the 5-80um size range.

You`ll find the only methods that tick all the boxes are hp aero equipped with accumulator/solenoid and the method the atomix itself uses..air atomised aero. Even with less than atomix quality roots you can call it aeroponic. I could call my house a mansion but to anyone who actually owns a mansion..its just a house

Atomizer said:

Its only a name, if your happy with what you get thats all that really counts

As far as a Clarification on Aeroponics is concerned, most aero growers agree the Atomix delivers truely aeroponic results.
Meet the same criteria as the atomix and your system has the same aeroponic potential and therefore must be truely aeroponic ..seems reasonable.

So how does it stack up?
1. The droplet sizes need to be in the range of 5-80 micron, nothing below 5 with the majority falling between 30 and 80 micron. (The atomix doesnt subscribe to the 50 micron droplet nasa malarky)
2. The root chamber needs to be maintained with a mist concentration not exceeding 0.9ml per 100L of chamber volume, and, with the mist comprised entirely of droplets in the 5-80um size range.

You`ll find the only methods that tick all the boxes are hp aero equipped with accumulator/solenoid and the method the atomix itself uses..air atomised aero. Even with less than atomix quality roots you can call it aeroponic. I could call my house a mansion but to anyone who actually owns a mansion..its just a house

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Let's hear from all the people who have gotten 'true aero' results with 80-30 micron droplets... and have seen the improvement over more conventional systems that hey have run in the past.

Are you one perhaps?

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I'll put my grow against anyone using Atomix (or Atomix-like sprayers) any day. My cloner sprayer tips at .59 cents each versus god knows how much that Atomix is.





And yes, I think even with my 'less than Atomix quality roots', I will still call it aeroponics... And a mansion if you'd like. (those are the six inch net pots btw)

Mike Young said:

Rather than take the opinion of a so called aeropro, I'd read. The information is out there.

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I'll take that a step further. After you've read, DO IT. Then and only then will your opinion count for anything.

lordjin said:

I'll take that a step further. After you've read, DO IT. Then and only then will your opinion count for anything.

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My statement seems to apply more to you than the original recipient. I'm not about to get in a pissing contest with you. As stated earlier, if you're happy with your nappy roots, cool. You stated that your system was "as good as it gets", with confidence. You should keep at it. No need for improvement.

Mike Young said:

My statement seems to apply more to you than the original recipient. I'm not about to get in a pissing contest with you. As stated earlier, if you're happy with your nappy roots, cool. You stated that your system was "as good as it gets", with confidence. You should keep at it. No need for improvement.

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My "nappy roots?" That's funny. Because that's just how roots get after a certain point in the plant's life. Haven't you ever grown to harvest before? Or do you just lack experience with larger plants?

And yes, your stupid little overpriced sprayers wouldn't do much to improve my already maximized system.

And good call on not wanting to get into a pissing contest with me. It's the most sensible thing you've said on this thread.

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Why don't you show me how to cultivate cannabis correctly?

No, better yet, why don't I show YOU how to cultivate cannabis correctly?

There's a simple solution. I challenge you to a grow-off. Your stupid expensive solenoid bullshit against my .59 cent plastic. We'll let RIU decide who should shut the fuck up.

That's what I thought.

In fact, I challenge ANYONE using the high pressure jets to a grow-off.

Kicking your ass will just serve to illustrate the point that it's the overall balance of your entire system that counts... not this one thing or that.

I don't care if you've spent hundreds or thousands on a sophisticated NASA inspired sprayer system. I'll still kick your ass.

Class dismissed.

can't we all just get along?! †LOL†

Mike, if your not getting into a pissing contest, then their would be no need for you to call lordjin's roots 'nappy' - play nice, please?

Lordjin, relax, I understand your point, but your work shows for itself.
so, play nice...

better yet, play high, that *might* help

RavenMochi said:

can't we all just get along?! †LOL†

Mike, if your not getting into a pissing contest, then their would be no need for you to call lordjin's roots 'nappy' - play nice, please?

Lordjin, relax, I understand your point, but your work shows for itself.
so, play nice...

better yet, play high, that *might* help

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Uuuuurgh. Alright. I may fly off the handle sometimes, but I can be reasoned with.

And I'm always high.

Eh, we all do. I'm just not allowed to anymore...

RavenMochi said:

Eh, we all do. I'm just not allowed to anymore...

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Unfortunate, but understandable.

The moderator must act as the buffer between two parties in dispute, ever the voice of reason in an often 'colorful' RIU crowd. He/she must conduct business by a higher standard, leading by example. It's a heavy burden, but surely it doesn't mean you can't have any fun?

Thanks for your kind intervention, btw.

The thread topic is Clarification on Aeroponics and nothing to do with how much it costs. As said, if your happy with what you get thats all that counts.

Hp aero roots on the left and atomix roots on the right

lordjin said:

That's what I thought.

In fact, I challenge ANYONE using the high pressure jets to a grow-off.

Kicking your ass will just serve to illustrate the point that it's the overall balance of your entire system that counts... not this one thing or that.

I don't care if you've spent hundreds or thousands on a sophisticated NASA inspired sprayer system. I'll still kick your ass.

Class dismissed.

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I bet I know where she gets her nitrogen!! No pissin contest!! I would win a koolaide drinking contest or pizza.

lordjin said:

Unfortunate, but understandable.

The moderator must act as the buffer between two parties in dispute, ever the voice of reason in an often 'colorful' RIU crowd. He/she must conduct business by a higher standard, leading by example. It's a heavy burden, but surely it doesn't mean you can't have any fun?

Thanks for your kind intervention, btw.

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Thank you for being pleasant about it

most of the mods have been taking shots for doing their job :rolls:
nice setup though, with that said, waayyyy out of my current league, I'm researching for my first drip/dwc hybrid system

Atomizer said:

The thread topic is Clarification on Aeroponics and nothing to do with how much it costs. As said, if your happy with what you get thats all that counts.

Hp aero roots on the left and atomix roots on the right

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Honestly, this is the first time I've gotten nasty on this site. Go back and look at my past posts. I'm usually very positive. Just a bad day? Who knows... It happens. Yeah, I'm always happy with my results, so why fight with anyone? True.

Beautiful root shots. Are they from your personal grows? Because photos carry a lot more weight if they are your own.

Delivering the oxygen on a air pressure driven micro liquid level produces beautiful results to be sure. The only reason my roots don't look pearly white like that is because of GH's brown colored nutes. If you've ever used it, you'll know what I'm talking about. That's why I want to switch to AN or something that doesn't turn the roots brown. I don't know if Jungle Juice is brown. I'm hoping to grow with a non-staining formula next time so my roots will resemble that a lot more.

Back to the topic of oxygen delivery, those roots being fed by micro particles exhibit that complex blonde hair look made of many fine strands because the moisture is delivered in ultra tiny particles. They keep multiplying fine strands instead of thickening existing ones. My roots tend to develop this way too, as I have 45 liters per minute of oxygen being pumped into about 12 gallons of water at the bottom of my tub. This unusually high concentration of oxygen in my spray droplets largely offsets the fact that my droplets aren't micro nor air pressure driven, so my root hang grows in the aero manner. In many dwc grows you often see just a few but very thick radish like roots strands that give way to a stringy root mass soaking at the bottom. My roots exhibit the characteristics of being somewhere in between a DWC and straight Aero... because that's exactly what my system is.

I have not heard it scientifically described how these different types of hydroponic root develpment relate to the quality of the actual plant, but I would venture to say that both are healthy forms of root growth that produce potent marijuana.

grizlbr said:

I bet I know where she gets her nitrogen!! No pissin contest!! I would win a koolaide drinking contest or pizza.

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The only contest I care to win is the marijuana smoking one.

lordjin said:

The only contest I care to win is the marijuana smoking one.

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what, who can smoke who under the table? BRING IT ON!!! †L† sorry, got a big excited there.

I don't know why got annoyed at the statement of nappy roots... The Nappy Roots make good music and have got their own holiday... I'm just sayin...

Shannon Alexander said:

I don't know why got annoyed at the statement of nappy roots... The Nappy Roots make good music and have got their own holiday... I'm just sayin...

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Good point. I don't know too much about those guys, but I do know my Rasta culture. The 'nappy roots' is a symbolic icon in Rastafari culture for good reason. (Rasta variation "natty roots"... a stylized spelling of "knotty roots" often referring to themselves, their friends and their spiritual identity as "Natty Dread" meaning "Knotty Dreadlocks") The dreadlocks worn by Rastas symbolize roots, the wellspring of growth and life... Simulataneously relating to the cultivation of ganja and the cultivation of our souls.

I don't think the kind gentleman meant it in a complimentary way, however.

Good luck with that set up. The roots should at least make it to the tubs. My roots will get up to 5 foot in length. Also expect to see the alpha plant to take over for space stunting the others roots. Only time will tell.

unless your plants are producing the white fluffy roots then i wouldn't consider the system to be working the way aeroponics was intended or to its full potential

those fluffy white roots indicate that the plant is receiving the perfect oxygen/moisture mix without ever getting too wet

systems that drench the roots in a fine spray will never keep roots in this fluffy state
these fake aero systems may have some advantages over regular hydro systems but i wouldn't consider them aeroponics

the low pressure spray systems that keep the roots constantly wet are sold as aeroponic systems because they use no medium .. defining aeroponics as any system that does not use a medium is open to abuse imo and results in revamped hydro systems sold at twice the price and labeled as "aeroponic"

they are free to call the system what they like
anyone that has done some research will know better and not fall for this marketing hype

similar thread here with some nice info ..
https://www.rollitup.org/aerogardeners/437684-true-hp-aero-2011-a-2.html