clear.milky.or amber trichromes?

TexasHank

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Even if noone here is a true MJ expert the advise given so far has not been bad, i cannot agree with you. The advise given comes from probably over 10 years of personal experience by several growers who study this topic and simply are trying to help.

I am open for discussion as for what is right and what is wrong, i am here to learn after all! However I or anyone else for the matter wont learn anything by listening to some guy spewing random knowledge. if you want to make an addition to the debate and the topic, you need to back up your claims with some links. By this i mean the specific links desribing this exact thing. Also i never heard about this guy Dr mahlberg, but you are very very wrong if you think cannabis is a plant that is not researched by more than one person with education. Im not saying this guy doesnt know what he is talking about, im just asking for the specific text where he describes this. How else will we be able to have a good debate ? how else learn?

As for Trichome color, its true that not all strains will get milky trichomes. Some strains (i belive mainly pure sativas) wont ever turn milky or amber. As for peak thc, then yes, Peak THC is BEFORE full ripening of the plant, HOWEVER this is still the same as eating an apple that isnt rippen. There are A LOT of other cannbinoids who maybe dont do so much as a compound alone, but together with THC and CBD they help "color" the effect by making the effect longer, more intense etc. Point is, the other cannabinoid compunds give your high balance, and this is very important since THC is psycoactive.
To me, a well balanced pleasureable high that lasts me 3-4 hours i preferable to a 45 min headrush that leaves me exhausted and very bad tempered.

Another thing worth mentioning is that the way cannabinoids in a bud is measured and how they develop. i mean you dont honestly belive that when its said 25% thc in a strain descrition this means 25% of 100% plant material?
well its not. The way its measured is "how many % of the trichome is thc". This means that since THC is earlier to develop ( thc has many stages of development btw ) thc will also be of a "higher %" since you have less amount of other cannabinoid compunds in your bud compared to rippen bud. everytime a new compund is added the THC% will go down, but this doesnt mean that the plant has LESS thc, it just means that the equation is different. The amound of thc can actually be higher since its also about the potency ( concentration ) and variety of cannabinoids.

it all depends on the different mixture of componds. Smoking a bud with "peak thc" will give you a very fast high that doesnt last for long and also makes you very very tired afterwards. Its also fairly known that premature bud that has "peak thc" induces a lot more paranoia than bud that you let rippen properly.

In the end i gues its all a matter of personal preferances, but i must say i dissagre with you. Premature bud is not the bomb, same as unrippen apples dont taste very good. I am however open for debate on this

Something else worth mentioning is that we humans dont even know the effect of halv of the existing cannabinoids OR how they work in conjunction with another. so without an complete understanding of the plant in question, how can we say that one way is better? What it does is leave room for debate and thats it.

Its one thing to say its peak potency when were talking about a product thats not finished and that has a high that is unbalanced and induces paranoia, and its one thing to say peak potency when you talk about a well balanced rippen plant. just my 2c.

Best regards :)
I don't know how to do the individual quote thing..

Googling Mahlberg THC studies will get you the same links I would send to you.. I don't have time to do research for the OP.. he asked for any advice.. so I gave it.

A good one is the High Times article "Resin Factory"

Here's a quote from that article..

"Dr. Paul G. Mahlberg who found that THC in the resin head is at it's peak when it's still clear - not opaque and certainly not amber. Dr. Mahlberg stuck a tiny syringe into the bulbous head of the trichome and extracted it's contents, then analyzed it for THC. The result: Without a doubt, THC is at it's highest before the trichome turns opaque."
 

TexasHank

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It's all about preference.. if you don't like harvesting at peak THC then don't do it.. that simple.
My experience on the matter.. customers were happier with the earlier harvest... When I say "earlier", I mean a hybrid at 7 to 9 wks as opposed to 9-11 wks..

ANd as to your claims about peak thc buds giving you a short fast high then leaving you very tired...? Sounds like typical forum nonsense.. Sativas won't turn amber...? Nonsense.. quit reading on RIU.. trust me. Learning about mj botany in front of a screen is lazy..
 

Ou8aCracker2

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You need a good 60x to 100x scope to check the trichomes.

Key points of harvest are...

1) Calyxes swell.

2) Pistils turn from white to orange to a dark reddish orange/brown and receed way back into their respective calyxes.

3) Trichomes are 90% Milky/Cloudy and 10% Clear or 90% Milky/Cloudy and 10% Amber.

As stated above amber trichomes are sign that the THC is degrading to CBN.
 
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