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EV Batteries: Can the U.S. Challenge China’s Industry Dominance? | U.S. vs. China | WSJ

120,728 views Mar 24, 2023 #China #WSJ #EV
China’s dominance is clear when it comes to powering electric vehicles. The U.S. lags in most steps of the battery-making process, from sourcing raw materials to assembling components.

The U.S. government is spending billions of dollars to take on China’s dominance in EV batteries. WSJ explores whether the U.S. can overcome these disadvantages.

DIY-HP-LED said:

EV Batteries: Can the U.S. Challenge China’s Industry Dominance? | U.S. vs. China | WSJ

120,728 views Mar 24, 2023 #China #WSJ #EV
China’s dominance is clear when it comes to powering electric vehicles. The U.S. lags in most steps of the battery-making process, from sourcing raw materials to assembling components.

The U.S. government is spending billions of dollars to take on China’s dominance in EV batteries. WSJ explores whether the U.S. can overcome these disadvantages.

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i didn't think the goal was global dominence, i thought it was independence? Having a domestic source, free from supply chain interruptions, embargoes, tariffs? from chinese influence...

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i didn't think the goal was global dominence, i thought it was independence? Having a domestic source, free from supply chain interruptions, embargoes, tariffs? from chinese influence...

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There are battery and chemical factories springing up all over North America a new one a week is announced FFS. They will be used not just for EVs though, but grid and home solar storage too, distributed storage with the consumer sharing the capital costs in exchange for a deal. Progress is so rapid and the chemistries so diverse, it will take a while for the winners to shake out and I wouldn't bet on cornering any vital materials market long term. I've seen and posted some amazing things in the past year some approaching manufacture or being made now.

Self-sufficiency for NA and the EU for batteries and the materials to make them, India is set to be a big player in the sodium battery market with British faradion technology. I think sodium batteries will improve enough to take over the EV and home storage markets, especially with a 20 year lifespan or more and eventual low costs. They might be a bit bigger cells, but they don't need a cooling system so the pack density can be similar to Li-on for EV use.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i didn't think the goal was global dominence, i thought it was independence? Having a domestic source, free from supply chain interruptions, embargoes, tariffs? from chinese influence...

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We have seen what happened to Russia when it tried to use oil as a weapon, and it fucked them for good probably. China is not likely to do the same with batteries for fear of suffering the same fate, if your customers don't trust you, they look for alternatives. It's like them flexing their muscles in the south China sea or near the Philippines, all their neighbors get nervous and armed to the teeth while seeking alliances with each other and Uncle Sam, it backfires. So, after the Russian experience with oil and playing with the valve and the dire economic consequences for them, I doubt China will play the same game with things like batteries. They want to use the transition to EVs to break into the global auto market and being under sanctions won't help that, if we don't get batteries and materials, don't expect to sell any cars in NA or the EU, the two biggest export markets.

How Solar Panels Are Changing Agriculture - Agrivoltaics Revisited

Experiments in agrivoltaics (solar panels plus farming) have had some really promising results over the last year, like using new technology (luminescent solar concentrators) to double food production and implementing AI systems to better harvest sunlight … but is getting twice the use per acre really a win-win for sustainable farming and renewable energy? It takes a certain type of vegetable to thrive in these environments, and the upfront costs for this technology can be crippling. Can tech and AI really enter the food production industry and reshape it, like they’ve done for so many others?

DIY-HP-LED said:

How Solar Panels Are Changing Agriculture - Agrivoltaics Revisited

Experiments in agrivoltaics (solar panels plus farming) have had some really promising results over the last year, like using new technology (luminescent solar concentrators) to double food production and implementing AI systems to better harvest sunlight … but is getting twice the use per acre really a win-win for sustainable farming and renewable energy? It takes a certain type of vegetable to thrive in these environments, and the upfront costs for this technology can be crippling. Can tech and AI really enter the food production industry and reshape it, like they’ve done for so many others?

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Apple farmer down here also finds them a decent frost cover over Apple trees. Also great in the middle of the day so the apples don't burn

A trillion could do a lot to convert to EV's and renewables, money would be better spent financing battery factories and solar farms.

A trillion bucks is a lot of incentive and rebates for EVs, home solar and storage, all the pieces are falling into place to absorb this awesome amount of money pissed away on rich oil companies every year.


When will fuel become unaffordable?

21,229 views Apr 2, 2023
The fuel crisis has affected all of us, but it has hit the least well-off families the hardest. The fossil fuel industry received more than a TRILLION dollars in direct subsidies in 2022, and some say if the impacts on the climate and environment were factored in, that number would be nearly six times higher. But, if we take the subsidies away, asks the fossil fuel industry, then how will people be able to afford to heat their homes?

DIY-HP-LED said:

A trillion could do a lot to convert to EV's and renewables, money would be better spent financing battery factories and solar farms.

A trillion bucks is a lot of incentive and rebates for EVs, home solar and storage, all the pieces are falling into place to absorb this awesome amount of money pissed away on rich oil companies every year.

When will fuel become unaffordable?

21,229 views Apr 2, 2023
The fuel crisis has affected all of us, but it has hit the least well-off families the hardest. The fossil fuel industry received more than a TRILLION dollars in direct subsidies in 2022, and some say if the impacts on the climate and environment were factored in, that number would be nearly six times higher. But, if we take the subsidies away, asks the fossil fuel industry, then how will people be able to afford to heat their homes?

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perhaps you useless, parasitical vermin could be fired, salaries could be slashed by 90%, and price caps could be slammed into place so hard they break whatever orifice you're using to suck the life out of your victims clean off....

Roger A. Shrubber said:

perhaps you useless, parasitical vermin could be fired, salaries could be slashed by 90%, and price caps could be slammed into place so hard they break whatever orifice you're using to suck the life out of your victims clean off....

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That's why home solar/wind with cheap battery storage when coupled with EVs are such a threat to them. It means energy independence for many consumers, if they want it and bargaining power with grid companies for sharing the cost of power generation and distributed storage with consumers. Think about the world in 2033, governments and big companies have to, will there be cheap solar panels and cheap sodium battery packs for cars and especially home use and in some cases recycled from cars? Will a high percentage of cars on the road in NA and the EU be EVs? What will be the impact of mass adoption of heat pumps on NG, oil and electric markets? We are seeing plenty of tantalizing technologies coming out of the labs and into production now, what will it be like in 10 years? I think the oil countries had better sell it while they can and not piss off their customers like the Russians did. In 10 years how rare will a traditional gas station be? How far will you have to drive to fill up your car?

DIY-HP-LED said:

Think about the world in 2022, governments and big companies have to, will there be cheap solar panels and cheap sodium battery packs for cars and especially home use and in some cases recycled from cars? Will a high percentage of cars on the road in NA and the EU be EVs? What will be the impact of mass adoption of heat pumps on NG, oil and electric markets? We are seeing plenty of tantalizing technologies coming out of the labs and into production now, what will it be like in 10 years? I think the oil countries had better sell it while they can and not piss off their customers like the Russians did. In 10 years how rare will a traditional gas station be? How far will you have to drive to fill up your car?

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I'm sure that was the conversation in the board room just before GM decided to smash the first EV1's

Grandpapy said:

I'm sure that was the conversation in the board room just before GM decided to smash the first EV1's

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I dunno if the tech was ready then especially the batteries and if they get some of the trillion spent on oil subsidies every year, they are now in a position to absorb it with solar, wind and batteries. The simple fact remains for most people, you can make your own power, but not your own fossil fuels and it is getting cheaper every year to both produce and store your own power from renewable sources. Powering your car from the system makes it much more feasible for many and complete for everybody. Not everybody is a homeowner, but if half the country is able to make their own power, it will make power for the other half a lot cheaper. No more massive military preparedness to secure energy supplies and no more dicking around with assholes who are sitting on it.

It was there.

on Oct. 10, 2000, GM agreed to sell their control of the EV batteries to Texaco. Less than a week later, on Oct. 16, 2000, only days after Texaco acquired control of the batteries, Chevron agreed to purchase Texaco in a $100 billion merger. Chevron announced the merger even though the GM sale of the batteries to what would become Chevron did not close untilJuly 17, 2000. Perhaps Chevron wanted this sale to be announced prior to the merger so it would not look like Chevron (formerly Standard Oil of California) worked directly with GM.
http://www.ev1.org/chevron.htm

Grandpapy said:

It was there.

on Oct. 10, 2000, GM agreed to sell their control of the EV batteries to Texaco. Less than a week later, on Oct. 16, 2000, only days after Texaco acquired control of the batteries, Chevron agreed to purchase Texaco in a $100 billion merger. Chevron announced the merger even though the GM sale of the batteries to what would become Chevron did not close untilJuly 17, 2000. Perhaps Chevron wanted this sale to be announced prior to the merger so it would not look like Chevron (formerly Standard Oil of California) worked directly with GM.
http://www.ev1.org/chevron.htm

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23 years ago, is a long time in terms of technology and practicality, it looks like they wasted their money any patents have long since expired etc. They might as well stand on the beach and try and stop the tide these days and had better hope that deep geothermal works out with gyrotron drilling, their money would be better spent there, and they could leverage their existing expertise, capital and equipment in that area. They should also remember they are in the energy business not necessarily the oil and gas business and think outside the oil tank.

DIY-HP-LED said:

23 years ago, is a long time in terms of technology and practicality, it looks like they wasted their money any patients have long since expired etc. They might as well stand on the beach and try and stop the tide these days and had better hope that deep geothermal works out with gyrotron drilling, their money would be better spent there, and they could leverage their existing expertise, capital and equipment in that area. They should also remember they are in the energy business not necessarily the oil and gas business and think outside the oil tank.

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we have some decent long-term care facilities

cannabineer said:

we have some decent long-term care facilities

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FIFY

WTF knows what they will be using for energy storage and EVs, but this looks interesting for grid storage. I kinda think something like dirt-cheap mass-produced sodium-based batteries will predominate many markets in a decade, unless something cheaper and better comes along, especially if they last a few decades as anticipated and their energy density increases, which it has.

Rather than the government pry your gas stove from your cold dead hands, how about this, might even be cheaper than an arsenal of guns and ammo!

Your stove will produce water vapor and heat and this system makes hydrogen from sunshine and stores it for use. It could even heat domestic hot water along with solar electric and dump excess hydrogen into heating it. However, if ya wanna cook with gas in the future, this could be the way to go, with no gas bills. I'm sure there will be traditional propane purists among the foodies though.



NEW Solar Panel Produces Cheap Green Hydrogen at Home | BREAKTHROUGH

304,072 views Mar 25, 2023 #offthegrid #solarpanel #greenhydrogen
This Hydrogen Solar Panel, developed by the Belgian Startup called "The Solhyd Project," is an all-in-one solution to produce pure green Hydrogen with only solar Energy and Air.
It solves many problems by replacing expensive large-scale battery systems with a limited Battery Lifespan.
But the new Hydrogen solar Panels are particularly exciting for home users as well, as it enables decentralized off grid hydrogen production for every household.
Enabling the dream of living off the grid.
Hydrogen could be an efficient energy storage alternative to battery systems but could also be sold at a profit since Green Hydrogen becomes increasingly important in decarbonizing Heavy Industry and Transport.
But how does this New Hydrogen Solar panel Work?
What are the benefits over conventional Solar panels?
What is this hydrogen breakthrough all about?
We'll find out in today's Video.

Now this is a very interesting idea, and the numbers add up.


Limitless Fresh Water Lies Right OVER The Ocean - Without Desalination!

Fresh water is the cornerstone of all life, and it always feels like we either have too much or too little. And while desalination has grown in popularity, it is very energy intensive to separate the salt from ocean water. But a novel idea is emerging that harnesses the water vapor right above our oceans and transports it back to land. It promises to be the lower cost lower energy alternative to desalination, but will it actually work? How much water can it realistically produce, and might this be a key solution to our water challenges in the future? Let's find out! Limitless Fresh Water Lies Right OVER The Ocean - Without Desalination!

DIY-HP-LED said:

It could even heat domestic hot water

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Why do you want to heat hot water? I bet you own a hot water heater, you magnificent redundant bastard....
Interesting video though, i think there are going to be lots of little solutions to compliment the big ones...Now if we could just get going on those big ones.