Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 28.0%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 41 26.1%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 72 45.9%

  • Total voters
    157

Mephisto666

Well-Known Member
I made a comment last week about the economic cost of climate change, which no one really seems to think that it will cost that much to them personally.
Well, yes it will for everyone starting now.
Home insurers cut natural disasters from policies as climate risks grow (yahoo.com)
First in line to lose are the millions of property owners who have been or will be refused coverage or if they can find some, be forced to pay exorbitant rates.
The 2nd in line is everyone else that has insurance because you do know that the insurance companies will raise rates now on everyone/everything just to cover their losses.
Not a good time to live anywhere in Florida especially, or anywhere else where climate change already is making areas unaffordable/uninhabitable.
So, you might ask is there anywhere on Earth that is a safe place to live anymore?
And the answer is becoming clearer every day.
Not really
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I made a comment last week about the economic cost of climate change, which no one really seems to think that it will cost that much to them personally.
Well, yes it will for everyone starting now.
Home insurers cut natural disasters from policies as climate risks grow (yahoo.com)
First in line to lose are the millions of property owners who have been or will be refused coverage or if they can find some, be forced to pay exorbitant rates.
The 2nd in line is everyone else that has insurance because you do know that the insurance companies will raise rates now on everyone/everything just to cover their losses.
Not a good time to live anywhere in Florida especially, or anywhere else where climate change already is making areas unaffordable/uninhabitable.
So, you might ask is there anywhere on Earth that is a safe place to live anymore?
And the answer is becoming clearer every day.
Not really
Insurers are the tip of the spear of corporate plutocracy here. It is thanks to them that the uninsured cost of a dose of vitamin K is $700. Veterinary $2
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I dunno if you could create technology as good as beavers for this job and the government should get beavering in those states! New laws to protect them, and some help for the critters, educate the public too. They might have the power to transform some states or parts of them. Think about all the rain they could have harvested and stored in the southwest this past month as they turn dry gulches and trickling creeks into ponds and lakes while digging irrigation channels through the surrounding lands to provide more food for themselves. No trees or wood to get them started, provide it and some food for a spell until they can get established with a wetland. Or build beaver dams, establish wetlands and let the beavers do the rest once introduced.


How Beavers Are Restoring Wetlands in North American Deserts!

94,747 views Sep 3, 2023
In the deserts of north America something incredible is happening, these arid lands are turning into lush green wetlands and its all because of a very secretive creature who only comes out at night
and the results are surprising everyone!
Determined, relentless and even stubborn are words commonly used to describe one natures hardest workers, they work tirelessly through the night, night after night, while most people are asleep...
I'm talking about beavers of course :) and despite their controversial and complex relationship with man in the past, there are a growing number in the science world who are coming to the realization that beavers could actually be a friend and not foe, who can help us win the fight to save the environment.

In this video we will show you how beavers have saved desert rivers over the course of 12 years, and the landscapes beavers create that can help to fight wildfires, reduce drought and reverse declining fish numbers we are going to look at two case studies of beavers effects on rivers in two completely different desert regions of north America, one in a northern cold and dry desert zone in Oregon and the other in the hotter and even drier southern desert in Nevada.
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I dunno if you could create technology as good as beavers for this job and the government should get beavering in those states! New laws to protect them, and some help for the critters, educate the public too. They might have the power to transform some states or parts of them. Think about all the rain they could have harvested and stored in the southwest this past month as they turn dry gulches and trickling creeks into ponds and lakes while digging irrigation channels through the surrounding lands to provide more food for themselves. No trees or wood to get them started, provide it and some food for a spell until they can get established with a wetland.


How Beavers Are Restoring Wetlands in North American Deserts!

94,747 views Sep 3, 2023
In the deserts of north America something incredible is happening, these arid lands are turning into lush green wetlands and its all because of a very secretive creature who only comes out at night
and the results are surprising everyone!
Determined, relentless and even stubborn are words commonly used to describe one natures hardest workers, they work tirelessly through the night, night after night, while most people are asleep...
I'm talking about beavers of course :) and despite their controversial and complex relationship with man in the past, there are a growing number in the science world who are coming to the realization that beavers could actually be a friend and not foe, who can help us win the fight to save the environment.

In this video we will show you how beavers have saved desert rivers over the course of 12 years, and the landscapes beavers create that can help to fight wildfires, reduce drought and reverse declining fish numbers we are going to look at two case studies of beavers effects on rivers in two completely different desert regions of north America, one in a northern cold and dry desert zone in Oregon and the other in the hotter and even drier southern desert in Nevada.
“desert beaver” sounds like something in a Craigslist ad …
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
“desert beaver” sounds like something in a Craigslist ad …
Apparently, they lived in the region hundreds of years ago and made the environment a much better place in some areas. With some help they could do it again very quickly, since they do multiply fast if given the right conditions and the fact that beaver hats went out of fashion.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Apparently, they lived in the region hundreds of years ago and made the environment a much better place in some areas. With some help they could do it again very quickly, since they do multiply fast if given the right conditions and the fact that beaver hats went out of fashion.
I think a big practical problem is that watersheds are being diverted for human use, leaving not enough for more than a few beavers. Water that used to flow is being impounded.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I think a big practical problem is that watersheds are being diverted for human use, leaving not enough for more than a few beavers. Water that used to flow is being impounded.
I still think a lot is getting away and the beavers can impond it before the farmers get it in many cases, working in the foothills for the most part. I'm sure there are plenty of places out west where it will work and the present landscape is a result of their extinction, mostly by native Americans for trade goods with Europeans. The global economy worked even in the furthest backwaters and among all peoples, even the native Americans.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I still think a lot is getting away and the beavers can impond it before the farmers get it in many cases, working in the foothills for the most part. I'm sure there are plenty of places out west where it will work and the present landscape is a result of their extinction, mostly by native Americans for trade goods with Europeans. The global economy worked even in the furthest backwaters and among all peoples, even the native Americans.
farmers? foothills? Desert?
 

injinji

Well-Known Member
I we got cyber attacked at our hospital. There were rumors it would take 4-8 weeks to rebuild. So I saw a temp gig in Panama City and was gonna go help out during our down time but they got the system back up at my job before I got a chance. What’s Panama City like? It looks very remote and touristy. After living in a town like that recently in SW Colorado, I can now say I don’t want to live in remote tourist towns that our super secluded anymore.
Panama City Beach is the tourist trap. They are there mostly in the summer. Panama City itself is an Air Force town, and a college town too. Until very recently it was a mill town. To me there are way too many folks there. But if you are wanting a bigger town, Pensacola is only a couple hours up the road.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
If you live down south you can drive for free, if your daily commute is less than 40 miles. Say you lived in a city or large town and your daily commuting was less than 20 miles a day, you would never need to plug the thing in, it could top itself up and more every day. With lots of range in the battery you could go a week of rainy weather or more and get some charging even on cloudy days.

Free transportation (minus capital costs) and there should be plenty of cheap versions of this kind of vehicle in the future and new flexible solar panels will make them even cheaper and easier to produce. They could even have self-adhesive replaceable solar panels, if the output dropped, but the OEM ones would probably last the lifetime of the vehicle anyway. More energy dense batteries and better solar panels can only improve the range and performance of this class of light vehicle. 1000 mile or more range and 50 miles of solar charging a day should be attainable with newer generations of batteries and solar panels and those are in the pipeline now.


Aptera — A Vehicle Like No Other

48,416 views Jun 23, 2023
Aptera combines the freedom and cost savings of a motorcycle with the safety and convenience of a traditional car (and has unique benefits of its own ☀)

Let’s see what makes Aptera a vehicle like no other.
__________________________________________________________________________________________

Aptera Motors has introduced the first solar electric vehicle (sEV) that requires no charging for most daily use and boasts a range of up to 1,000 miles per full charge, shattering industry performance achievements to date. Aptera leverages breakthroughs in lightweight structures, low-drag aerodynamics and cooling, material science, and manufacturing processes to deliver the most efficient vehicle ever made available to consumers.
Aptera's Never Charge is built into every vehicle and is designed to harvest enough sunlight to travel over 11,000 miles per year in most regions.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
If you live down south you can drive for free, if your daily commute is less than 40 miles. Say you lived in a city or large town and your daily commuting was less than 20 miles a day, you would never need to plug the thing in, it could top itself up and more every day. With lots of range in the battery you could go a week of rainy weather or more and get some charging even on cloudy days.

Free transportation (minus capital costs) and there should be plenty of cheap versions of this kind of vehicle in the future and new flexible solar panels will make them even cheaper and easier to produce. They could even have self-adhesive replaceable solar panels, if the output dropped, but the OEM ones would probably last the lifetime of the vehicle anyway. More energy dense batteries and better solar panels can only improve the range and performance of this class of light vehicle. 1000 mile or more range and 50 miles of solar charging a day should be attainable with newer generations of batteries and solar panels and those are in the pipeline now.


Aptera — A Vehicle Like No Other

48,416 views Jun 23, 2023
Aptera combines the freedom and cost savings of a motorcycle with the safety and convenience of a traditional car (and has unique benefits of its own ☀)

Let’s see what makes Aptera a vehicle like no other.
__________________________________________________________________________________________

Aptera Motors has introduced the first solar electric vehicle (sEV) that requires no charging for most daily use and boasts a range of up to 1,000 miles per full charge, shattering industry performance achievements to date. Aptera leverages breakthroughs in lightweight structures, low-drag aerodynamics and cooling, material science, and manufacturing processes to deliver the most efficient vehicle ever made available to consumers.
Aptera's Never Charge is built into every vehicle and is designed to harvest enough sunlight to travel over 11,000 miles per year in most regions.
I want one
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
A cheapo version in 5 years from China or Asia with sodium batteries and maybe replaceable flexible solar panels on the body. A 100-mile battery could be fine for some, with a 50-mile solar recharge a day, but there would be upgrade options.
No. Nothing from China if I can avoid it.

They recently redesigned the Aptera to have replaceable photovoltaics. So if a useful increment comes down the pike, it could probably be an upgrade.

Only Asian locale I’d accept is Japan. I’m on the fence about Taiwan. But India, Indochina, Indonesia, hard pass.
 
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