Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 27.5%

  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 42 26.3%

  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 74 46.3%
  • Total voters
    160
Sativied

Sativied

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
ok, but there has to be some more environmentally friendly options to cotton, i'm just not aware of what they are, and don't feel like researching it at the moment. what do people who live in deserts use?
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Well, if they’re lucky and in the right desert:

www.ecowatch.com

Chile’s Atacama Desert: Where Fast Fashion Goes to Die - EcoWatch

Deep in the Atacama Desert of Chile, new dunes are forming — not of sand, but of last year's unsold clothing from around the world. Piled high atop the previous year's fast fashion casualties and unpurchased lines of clothes, the garments are usually filled with toxins and dyes and do not...
www.ecowatch.com www.ecowatch.com

Organic hemp based, or recycled are good alternatives but not sure that still applies if billions use it. As a consumer you don’t always have a lot of choice. The main problem isn’t you buying quality cotton clothing, it’s ‘fashion’. Buy durable, not trendy.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Sativied said:
Well, if they’re lucky and in the right desert:

www.ecowatch.com

Chile’s Atacama Desert: Where Fast Fashion Goes to Die - EcoWatch

Deep in the Atacama Desert of Chile, new dunes are forming — not of sand, but of last year's unsold clothing from around the world. Piled high atop the previous year's fast fashion casualties and unpurchased lines of clothes, the garments are usually filled with toxins and dyes and do not...
www.ecowatch.com www.ecowatch.com

Organic hemp based, or recycled are good alternatives but not sure that still applies if billions use it. As a consumer you don’t always have a lot of choice. The main problem isn’t you buying quality cotton clothing, it’s ‘fashion’. Buy durable, not trendy.
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The bedsheets I remember from my youth lasted decades. The ones in the stores now last me less than a year. (And Amazon is filled with utter crap made in China, and the reviews reveal bad quality and virtually zero durability.)
Without buying Italian designer linens I cannot afford, I don’t know how to even find anything durable.
 
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schuylaar

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
ok, but there has to be some more environmentally friendly options to cotton, i'm just not aware of what they are, and don't feel like researching it at the moment. what do people who live in deserts use?
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They've been making shoes from plastic..I love modal, bamboo, viscose..all soft materials..I live in that material it flows well and you can layer.
 
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schuylaar

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cannabineer said:
The bedsheets I remember from my youth lasted decades. The ones in the stores now last me less than a year. (And Amazon is filled with utter crap made in China, and the reviews reveal bad quality and virtually zero durability.)
Without buying Italian designer linens I cannot afford, I don’t know how to even find anything durable.
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On Amazon, you have to check the page count. They put the Chinese stuff up first due to algorithm. The Chinese send you your product and will replace lifetime for 5-star reviews. I understand there are few ways to be competitive with an eye mask, but feel it's wrong to ask that of me. I've been shopping a lot locally to help keep them in business- I pay more but usually make a new friend and it feels good to let people know you support them especially what we've been through with That Man, The Insurrection and the Pandemic. People really brighten up when you take an interest in their business and it feels as if there may be light up ahead after all.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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schuylaar said:
On Amazon, you have to check the page count. They put the Chinese stuff up first due to algorithm. The Chinese send you your product and will replace lifetime for 5-star reviews. I understand there are few ways to be competitive with an eye mask, but feel it's wrong to ask that of me. I've been shopping a lot locally to help keep them in business- I pay more but usually make a new friend and it feels good to let people know you support them especially what we've been through with That Man, The Insurrection and the Pandemic. People really brighten up when you take an interest in their business and it feels as if there may be light up ahead after all.
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shopping locally doesn’t work in the middle of east nowhere.
I don’t know how an eye mask figures in.

How do you shop for good fitted sheets?
 
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schuylaar

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cannabineer said:
shopping locally doesn’t work in the middle of east nowhere.
I don’t know how an eye mask figures in.

How do you shop for good fitted sheets?
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Just go right to the store online.

www.bedbathandbeyond.com

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Let BedBathandBeyond.com help you discover designer brands & home goods at the lowest prices online. With free shipping on orders over $49.99*. See for yourself why shoppers love our selection & award-winning customer service.
www.bedbathandbeyond.com www.bedbathandbeyond.com

You're in luck it's Cyber Monday.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
schuylaar said:
Just go right to the store online.

www.bedbathandbeyond.com

Bed Bath & Beyond | The Best Deals Online: Furniture, Bedding, Rugs, Kitchen Essentials & More

Let BedBathandBeyond.com help you discover designer brands & home goods at the lowest prices online. With free shipping on orders over $49.99*. See for yourself why shoppers love our selection & award-winning customer service.
www.bedbathandbeyond.com www.bedbathandbeyond.com

You're in luck it's Cyber Monday.
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How do you sort the hits by the one parameter that matters to me?
 
Grandpapy

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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Here are some people keeping an eye on gyrotron drilling experiments in America and will climb right aboard as money flows if a successful deep test hole or two is drilled using it. Several companies make Gyrotron tubes and there will be a market, if they pull it off and can go deep, the more proof they have that it is a viable technology the more interested oil companies and governments will be and the more investment dollars will pour in. This deep well technology could replace coal or gas-powered boilers at thermal electric power plants, it has that much energy potential and heat. Many of the more conventional geothermal schemes they present here would be completely blown out of the water.


Geothermal Energy: The key enabler to EU's energy transition
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Geothermal is the key enabler to EU's energy transition! How?

A renewable, almost limitless and green source with an tremendous potential, geothermal energy can provide:
-more than 25% of heating and cooling consumption in Europe, and
-more than 10% of electricity

EU’s reliance on fossil fuels is a hindrance to its own growth and the well-being of its citizens.

Estimates are that the heat under our feet amounts to 50,000 times more power than all the oil and gas resources in the world.

So, why most of it still remains untapped?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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cannabineer said:
No; equating settled science with religion is quite an overreach.
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Not really, as science is by definition, never settled. It's not at all dissimilar to those who attempt to constrain spirituality based solely upon past doctrine (aka religion).
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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PJ Diaz said:
Not really, as science is by definition, never settled. It's not at all dissimilar to those who attempt to constrain spirituality based solely upon past doctrine (aka religion).
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I think of that as a semantic contortion. “Settled science” I perceive as an idiom and not a credo.
 
PJ Diaz

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cannabineer said:
I think of that as a semantic contortion. “Settled science” I perceive as an idiom and not a credo.
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That's only because you're intelligent. I believe most who use the term, in ignorance, do so quite literally. Again, this semantic contortion as you call it, is not at all dissimilar to the semantical differences between religion and spirituality.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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PJ Diaz said:
Not really, as science is by definition, never settled. It's not at all dissimilar to those who attempt to constrain spirituality based solely upon past doctrine (aka religion).
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Science changes with the available evidence, religious doctrine does not, though it mutates through bullshit and misinterpretation. In all systems of belief however, some ideas have to die with those holding them, even in science. Science deals with the natural world and relies on natural explanations for phenomena and there is no evidence for the existence of a supernatural realm, Some, general questions in science have a good enough answer that is unlikely to change. With things like natural selection, just the details in some instances need to be worked out and the general framework is proved fact with multiple lines of evidence. Other things like physics are more complex with different paradigms and mathematics working at different scales and the general framework of physics still fuzzy. Newtonian physics works fine for sending space probes around the solar system and the math is used for it.

Superstition is a result of the human imagination as are God's and devils, we are not that important and could be snuffed out in a violent universe by random forces beyond our control. We like the dinosaurs, and every other creature will live for short time as species in the deep time, in the end we will be dust in the solar wind, once again stardust.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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PJ Diaz said:
This describes my pretext of "settled science" equating to that of a scientific religion perfectly.
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It does not equate, science is based on evidence, it is however a human propensity to stick with beliefs we develop and have egotistical attachment to. Religion is based on doctrine and blind faith, the core beliefs are not up for grabs, there is a God if you are religious and that is not in dispute among them, and evidence will not change their minds or their doctrine. Some beliefs die with those carrying them, used to be truer in science than it is today. Einstein had trouble with quantum mechanics on an intuitive level but was ultimately proven wrong in the realm of the tiny and correct in the domain of the cosmos.

Science is settled by a preponderance of evidence that fits a theoretical framework, in the case of things like evolution there are multiple separate lines of evidence, from branches including embryology, paleology, geology, biology, genetics and the art of breeding. For plate tectonics multiple lines of evidence are available too.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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DIY-HP-LED said:
It does not equate, science is based on evidence, it is however a human propensity to stick with beliefs we develop and have egotistical attachment to. Religion is based on doctrine and blind faith, the core beliefs are not up for grabs, there is a God if you are religious and that is not in dispute among them, and evidence will not change their minds or their doctrine. Some beliefs die with those carrying them, used to be truer in science than it is today. Einstein had trouble with quantum mechanics on an intuitive level but was ultimately proven wrong in the realm of the tiny and correct in the domain of the cosmos.

Science is settled by a preponderance of evidence that fits a theoretical framework, in the case of things like evolution there are multiple separate lines of evidence, from branches including embryology, paleology, geology, biology, genetics and the art of breeding. For plate tectonics multiple lines of evidence are available too.
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I'm not too surprised that the point is over your head. "Settled science", what a crock.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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PJ Diaz said:
That's only because you're intelligent. I believe most who use the term, in ignorance, do so quite literally. Again, this semantic contortion as you call it, is not at all dissimilar to the semantical differences between religion and spirituality.
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It could be cultural. I spent my life around people for whom the “prime directive” was the primacy of test. They and I appreciated the recursive nature of the thing: something might come along requiring that even the prime directive might need to be adjusted or perhaps abandoned. Speculating about what this might be … is only fun with good weed ime. But I found the associated attitude to be a good defense against scientism.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Science changes with the available evidence, religious doctrine does not, though it mutates through bullshit and misinterpretation. In all systems of belief however, some ideas have to die with those holding them, even in science. Science deals with the natural world and relies on natural explanations for phenomena and there is no evidence for the existence of a supernatural realm, Some, general questions in science have a good enough answer that is unlikely to change. With things like natural selection, just the details in some instances need to be worked out and the general framework is proved fact with multiple lines of evidence. Other things like physics are more complex with different paradigms and mathematics working at different scales and the general framework of physics still fuzzy. Newtonian physics works fine for sending space probes around the solar system and the math is used for it.

Superstition is a result of the human imagination as are God's and devils, we are not that important and could be snuffed out in a violent universe by random forces beyond our control. We like the dinosaurs, and every other creature will live for short time as species in the deep time, in the end we will be dust in the solar wind, once again stardust.
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I believe it was T. H. Huxley who described the great tragedy of science as the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by one ugly fact.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
I believe it was T. H. Huxley who described the great tragedy of science as the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by one ugly fact.
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The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious and science strips mystery away and thus the beauty. I see it in the world of meditation where the romantic can have their delusions stripped away by reality sometimes. It's just an exercise like running, get over it! :lol: Buddhism tends to attract the intellectual romantics, as it were, who are drawn by the psychological aspects and the promise of enlightenment blended with traditional superstitions and magical powers. They have no idea of what is involved in attaining the sublime state, some have a propensity and others do not, just like any other "talent". I could probably make money teaching people to use the "force", a lot of scifi mythology is built on Buddhist themes and there's one born every minute! Damn conscience! Breathe, just breathe, but don't expect to move rocks telekinetically :lol: Though you will be happier.
 
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