Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 45 28.1%

  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 41 25.6%

  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 74 46.3%
  • Total voters
    160
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injinji said:
That is where I want my electricity to come from. Not the exploding ones, just a run of the mill 10K hole drilled into the earth at an existing powerplant to heat water, to turn the turbines to make juice.
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It's the ultimate dispatchable resource; turn it on and off at the flick of a switch. This makes geothermal the perfect complement for wind and solar.
 
Nugnewbie said:
www.theguardian.com

To resist the climate crisis, we must resist the billionaire class | Peter Kalmus

To solve the climate crisis, power must flow away from the billionaire class
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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"When the billionaire class and its corporations pose such a grave danger through the web of laws they’ve created, when they use those laws as a normative framework to kill us, it’s time to disobey. And it’s not necessary to turn yourself in."

This is the most important point.
 
injinji said:
You talkin to me? I saw a story a few years back that said Jackson County Florida was the best place in the country to escape the worst of climate change. (I'm near there) Lots of ag and timber land, plenty of water and not many folks. And until Michael I would have said I was far enough inland to not worry about hurricanes.

We have been talking about summering in the mountains. But after all the bad things I've said about folks who sale family land, I had better not do it myself.
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Maybe and maybe not; if you're in Miami it's probably time to stop investing in new beachfront condos and make an exit plan.

If you're at altitude (over 15' above sea level lol) and inland then you may escape the worst of it, although no place is safe from Mother Nature when she gets in a mood.

Jackson County is the best place to escape climate change? I dunno about that... but it's far from the worst. How long is the drive to the beach?
 
ttystikk said:
Maybe and maybe not; if you're in Miami it's probably time to stop investing in new beachfront condos and make an exit plan.

If you're at altitude (over 15' above sea level lol) and inland then you may escape the worst of it, although no place is safe from Mother Nature when she gets in a mood.

Jackson County is the best place to escape climate change? I dunno about that... but it's far from the worst. How long is the drive to the beach?
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Don't ask me to dig up the links now, but last time I dug into projections the areas with the lowest AGW impact are the eastern flank of Appalachia and the Midwest great lakes region. But even here the changes are easily noticeable, drought conditions are becoming more frequent and sever. Extremely winter storms were once a decade when I was a kid and now it's 1 in 3 years. Growing up lows in the teens or single digits happened about once every 5 years now it feels like we have a cold week every year. I remember warm bally winter days in the low 70s growing up in Feb 23 we went from 12f to 82f in 3 days
 
VaSmile said:
Don't ask me to dig up the links now, but last time I dug into projections the areas with the lowest AGW impact are the eastern flank of Appalachia and the Midwest great lakes region. But even here the changes are easily noticeable, drought conditions are becoming more frequent and sever. Extremely winter storms were once a decade when I was a kid and now it's 1 in 3 years. Growing up lows in the teens or single digits happened about once every 5 years now it feels like we have a cold week every year. I remember warm bally winter days in the low 70s growing up in Feb 23 we went from 12f to 82f in 3 days
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It's also flaws in how people interpret the data; a slight increase in "average" temperature totally ignores the effects of seeing far more and frequent extremes of temperature in the same time period.

This variability is going to get worse as the transition from one climate equilibrium to another gathers momentum.

I can't find it right now, but Paul Beckwith has discussed this in depth in various episodes on his YouTube channel.
 
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ttystikk said:
Maybe and maybe not; if you're in Miami it's probably time to stop investing in new beachfront condos and make an exit plan.

If you're at altitude (over 15' above sea level lol) and inland then you may escape the worst of it, although no place is safe from Mother Nature when she gets in a mood.

Jackson County is the best place to escape climate change? I dunno about that... but it's far from the worst. How long is the drive to the beach?
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The Sandhill is about 120 feet above sea level. The riverhouse about 75. It's an hour to Panama City Beach, an hour fifteen to Mexico Beach. Add 15-30 minutes to that for Jackson County. The Larry's are thick up there. Richer and more politicly connected. Their farms are good rich dirt too.
 
injinji said:
The Sandhill is about 120 feet above sea level. The riverhouse about 75. It's an hour to Panama City Beach, an hour fifteen to Mexico Beach. Add 15-30 minutes to that for Jackson County. The Larry's are thick up there. Richer and more politicly connected. Their farms are good rich dirt too.
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Then that's not a part of Florida that's likely to sink anytime soon. A good thing and a relief!

After my experience with the area around Boca Raton, I really wouldn't care much if that whole party of the state washed away- and take Jupiter Beach with it.
 
ttystikk said:
Then that's not a part of Florida that's likely to sink anytime soon. A good thing and a relief!

After my experience with the area around Boca Raton, I really wouldn't care much if that whole party of the state washed away- and take Jupiter Beach with it.
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My river feeds the Dead Lakes, which are about 20 feet ASL. I doubt I will live long enough to see them become brackish. But the rate of sea level rise is increasing, and I am pretty healthy, so you never know. . . . .

It's been a long time since I have been to the south end of the state. My parents lived in Tampa in the 50's. Sister was born there. They moved back home just before I was born, but we used to go all the time when I was a kid. The last time I went was in 1980. The changes then were crazy. I can't imagine what it's like now. It was all orange groves and cow pastures when I was a kid.
 
injinji said:
My river feeds the Dead Lakes, which are about 20 feet ASL. I doubt I will live long enough to see them become brackish. But the rate of sea level rise is increasing, and I am pretty healthy, so you never know. . . . .

It's been a long time since I have been to the south end of the state. My parents lived in Tampa in the 50's. Sister was born there. They moved back home just before I was born, but we used to go all the time when I was a kid. The last time I went was in 1980. The changes then were crazy. I can't imagine what it's like now. It was all orange groves and cow pastures when I was a kid.
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I can only tell you about the Ft Lauderdale area 20 years ago. It was pretty damn crowded and I'm very glad I didn't stay.

Colorado is paradise but your Sandhill sounds pretty sweet too.
 
ttystikk said:
Colorado is paradise but your Sandhill sounds pretty sweet too.
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disagree hard imho

over crowded entirely too populated, housing is unaffordable, life is unaffordable
the rocky mountains aint that great, trails filled with trash and dog shit.

people are rude as fuck too

Not paradise at all.

If your quote is " go for the weekend to the mountains to escape" than you arent really living anywhere you love, (not you specifically but people here in general)

but than again i lived on an island in alaska in the mountains with the ocean so im biased.
CO is Least favorite state ive ever lived in and for a canadian immigrant ive lived and visited in a lot
 
sunni said:
disagree hard imho

over crowded entirely too populated, housing is unaffordable, life is unaffordable
the rocky mountains aint that great, trails filled with trash and dog shit.

people are rude as fuck too

Not paradise at all.

If your quote is " go for the weekend to the mountains to escape" than you arent really living anywhere you love, (not you specifically but people here in general)

but than again i lived on an island in alaska in the mountains with the ocean so im biased.
CO is Least favorite state ive ever lived in and for a canadian immigrant ive lived and visited in a lot
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Without getting into specifics, I think your particular choice of city to live in may have a lot to do with your feelings about the state. If I lived where you do, I wouldn't be nearly so enthusiastic about living here, either.

I live in a city of nearly 200k and I can walk to the foothills from my house.

That said, if your standard of access to wild land is Alaska, nothing else comes close! But ask a New York City dweller how long it takes them to get to a campground that's more than arms reach from civilization and they'll be talking about a full day's drive.

It's all relative, I guess.
 
ttystikk said:
Without getting into specifics, I think your particular choice of city to live in may have a lot to do with your feelings about the state. If I lived where you do, I wouldn't be nearly so enthusiastic about living here, either.

I live in a city of nearly 200k and I can walk to the foothills from my house.

That said, if your standard of access to wild land is Alaska, nothing else comes close! But ask a New York City dweller how long it takes them to get to a campground that's more than arms reach from civilization and they'll be talking about a full day's drive.

It's all relative, I guess.
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well military people dont get to choose right, i know where you live given i can see your IP address i can confirm its the exact same as where i live essentially,

I agree its relative,
 
sunni said:
well military people dont get to choose right, i know where you live given i can see your IP address i can confirm its the exact same as where i live essentially,

I agree its relative,
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If that's the case then you have extremely high standards for what makes a nice place to live.

I've lived in places like Boca Raton, Denver, San Diego and many more and at least for the continental US, this is where it's at!

But life is short; if you don't like where you live, then by all means get to someplace that does make you happy. One person's paradise can easily be another person's purgatory.

Military posting imperatives take priority, of course.
 
ttystikk said:
If that's the case then you have extremely high standards for what makes a nice place to live.

I've lived in places like Boca Raton, Denver, San Diego and many more and at least for the continental US, this is where it's at!

But life is short; if you don't like where you live, then by all means get to someplace that does make you happy. One person's paradise can easily be another person's purgatory.

Military posting imperatives take priority, of course.
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I thought genuinely we would love it here given what we like as a family
But the rudeness racism, sexual harassment and severe lack of caring for the environment the rat race and the immense amount of traffic and high cost of living isn’t worth it

I’ve lived in 7? Different states in the USA and this is my least favorite

cost of living is horrendous here for no good reason
Some may argue it’s close to nature and that’s why but again I lived on an island in Alaska with some of the best nature and views and it wasn’t this high cost of living

unfortunately I will get the opportunity to live where I want in 12-15 years because military life requires us to live where they post us and than you can only be so far Out from their requirements

it’s a downfall of my spouse serving the country I guess
 
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