Cliven Bundy, conservative hero and rancher, is actually a bigoted POS.

Canna Sylvan

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Mid,

You NTs just can't understand, your brain never developed properly. We are a super subspecies. It's passed genetically like: race, hair color, eye color, etc. Trying to call my superiority in intelligence over yours a disorder, is the same as saying I'm melanin deficient and that's somehow a disorder I need to take responsibility for.
 

londonfog

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Mid,

You NTs just can't understand, your brain never developed properly. We are a super subspecies. It's passed genetically like: race, hair color, eye color, etc. Trying to call my superiority in intelligence over yours a disorder, is the same as saying I'm melanin deficient and that's somehow a disorder I need to take responsibility for.
If you do suffer from albinism, I would suggest an uptake in Vitamin D and avoid the sun. IS that the reason why you have so mush hate for others.
 

Rob Roy

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i wonder what the numbers would look like if a predominantly black society settled the united states on the back of white slave labor followed by centuries of institutional racism and unequal access to opportunity.

When you say "institutional racism", you are really saying that the racism was brought about and enforced by a coercive government aren't you?


It appears you are asking the wrong question...once again.
 

Rob Roy

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I would not agree with anything that a creationist has to say about science just like I would not agree with anything a racist has to say about politics.

That might be like painting yourself into a corner. If you qualified that with you are suspect of what those kinds of people say, I'd agree. However, even people that are frequently wrong are capable of being correct from time to time on a given issue.

My advice is to argue against the other persons argument rather than the person as tempting as they may be.

Of course both Clive Bundy and the BLM are in the wrong....if you are a Paiute Indian or a tortoise.
 

Rob Roy

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If you do suffer from albinism, I would suggest an uptake in Vitamin D and avoid the sun. IS that the reason why you have so mush hate for others.

Albinism? So it's not caused by repeated playing of Edgar Winter's Frankenstein? Wow, who knew?
 

londonfog

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That might be like painting yourself into a corner. If you qualified that with you are suspect of what those kinds of people say, I'd agree. However, even people that are frequently wrong are capable of being correct from time to time on a given issue.

My advice is to argue against the other persons argument rather than the person as tempting as they may be.

Of course both Clive Bundy and the BLM are in the wrong....if you are a Paiute Indian or a tortoise.
Why not argue against both??? The person and his racist stance
 

Rob Roy

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Why not argue against both??? The person and his racist stance

You could not like a persons racism and argue that you think it is wrong, but until a persons thoughts create an actionable act that harms another how do you propose restituting the racists so called victims that the racist hasn't aggressed against in the physical realm?

In other words, we can disagree with Bundy's thoughts, but it is actions that cause harm. He can think anything he wants to, but until his thoughts are carried out in an actionable way, how has he created a victim?
 

Harrekin

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Mid,

You NTs just can't understand, your brain never developed properly. We are a super subspecies. It's passed genetically like: race, hair color, eye color, etc. Trying to call my superiority in intelligence over yours a disorder, is the same as saying I'm melanin deficient and that's somehow a disorder I need to take responsibility for.
Lol, that's why you seem like a child to us, is it?

Super intelligent compared to a 6 year old.
 
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Rob Roy

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Q - Why is the rabbit unafraid (smoking a pipe)?

A - Because he knows he's smarter than the panther.
 

londonfog

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You could not like a persons racism and argue that you think it is wrong, but until a persons thoughts create an actionable act that harms another how do you propose restituting the racists so called victims that the racist hasn't aggressed against in the physical realm?

In other words, we can disagree with Bundy's thoughts, but it is actions that cause harm. He can think anything he wants to, but until his thoughts are carried out in an actionable way, how has he created a victim?
A persons thoughts reveals who and what that person is about. and if we are still speaking about Clive...the old fart is breaking the law whilst showing his racism
 

Rob Roy

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A persons thoughts reveals who and what that person is about. and if we are still speaking about Clive...the old fart is breaking the law whilst showing his racism

Clive Bundy may be a racist and an old fart, but who did he demonstrably harm and how?

Breaking a law is not in itself a good or a bad thing. First consider the law itself. It was against the law to aid a runaway slave, yet any person with a conscience would recognize that as the right thing to do, even if their giving help would be an act of breaking the law.

A persons actions are what a person is accountable to others for, their thoughts if not acted upon are harder to declare as harmful.

I'm not defending Clive Bundy, nor am I defending the tyrants that will eventually harm him. I reject the hypocrisy of the Federal Government owning unused land. Where and how did the Feds acquire dominion over this land? Who did they fuck over?
 

greenlikemoney

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Then again we have Liberal Democrats who have been worshipped by the NAACP prove that ideology and reality are sometimes two very different things. Say hello to Donald Sterling, a HUGE Liberal Democrat who doesn't want his black/mexican girlfriend being seen in public with black folk. Now that's fucking classic right there.
 

NoDrama

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Sorry but this statement is wrong, maybe you were using sarcasm and i did not catch ot but rich people do both of those things to catch a tax break. Perfect example, my aunt and uncle eother needed to get a car loan or remortgage their house or they get hit with large income taxes. They also donate to avoid getting hit with a huge bill come tax time. And donating while not gaining anything, if you are smart about it wont cost ya all that much, just my 2¢

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A car loan? You can't deduct car interest payments from your Income and you only get to deduct your primary residence and a secondary residence at most. You don't get to keep getting loans and buying homes for the interest deduction.

I assume your Aunt and Uncle do not work, but rely on investment income.
 

NoDrama

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how is that every cent can possible be accounted for every church across the U.S when 90% of the income is cash??? You are too old and have too much trust to actually know whats going on around you. You are their perfect mark red, I pity you.
Most money the church gets is in the form of Checks that can be used as evidence that a charity was paid a large sum of money. You think most of the money is collected on the plate? Sorry, that accounts for about 1% of the money a church gets, have you ever attended a church? When Mr Johnson is dying and bequeaths his $10million estate to the church, do you think the bank brings wads and wads of cash and puts it in the poor box or something? How lacking in worldly experiences does one need to be? The offering plate is for the poor people to place a few dollars on so they can make a gesture of giving. the real funds come from the old folks who are hell bent on their religion being the right one and have nothing else to do with their nest eggs once they get near the end. Go to church, get involved, maybe you will realize that its totally different than your fantasy.
 
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