Clones, Quarantines, and Playing it Safe

subcool

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There is always a danger when accepting clones or cuttings of bringing in pest or problems along with the new acquisitions. Even if a clone appears perfectly healthy it can be transporting mites or mildew and this can really put a damper on our already work intensive hobby. There are several ways to help prevent transfer that I will cover in this article but the first and most important is a simple rule.
When accepting a clone assume it has mites and treat it accordingly. What does this mean? In a word Quarantine!
Now I grow organically but when it comes to dealing with pest I choose a nuclear warhead when it comes to prevention and I dip new clones/cuttings into Avid. While the precautions on this systemic pesticide look pretty heavy there are two main factors that rest any fears I have. First I do not spray the product at anytime but mix per label directions and use as a dip. The second is my research uncovered the fact that Avid is used heavily in my local agriculture on many berry and fruit bearing plants so I am already consuming large quantities most likely. Some growers chose to use more Earth friendly products like Neem Oil but Neem is really hard on the plants and does not always insure a full kill.
The proper way to apply Avid is to dip the clones as soon as they arrive and then again 3 days later assuring all emerging eggs are also killed. Mites have a life cycle of three days. I will actually treat clones and then place them inside a dome and use duct tape to seal it shut. This prevents any pest from escaping and infecting your garden. I am also a fan of Pest strips and again make no mistake these contain a controversial toxin called Dichlorvos and it is a carcinogen but I guess its really according to how bad you hate Mites or as we call em “The Borg”. I would never use them around flowering plants but I have been known to tape one up inside a dome with newly received clones.
 

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subcool

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The other big issue with clones is the dreaded Powdery mildew and it is also invisible in spore form meaning your clone can look perfectly healthy and as soon as conditions are right powered mildew can spread so fast it can literally destroy a garden in days. Keeping your humidity low and temps between 70-74 during the dark cycle will severely hamper mildews ability to spread so with Mildew think Environment before treatment, if your conditions are poor no treatment will stop the spread of PM.
I have had some really good results using Safer mildew treatment made up of natural oils like garlic and cinnamon. During the winter months any new clone is treated upon arrival and again while it is in the vegative state. Some old timers like to use lemon water but my research tells me that they actually like a slightly acidic condition. Air movement is also crucial to prevent mildew.
Sometimes infestations take drastic measures and I have taken down entire grow rooms killed all the early flowering plants and fogged my rooms to prevent infestation. Sometimes this can be the only solution as treating flowering plants is a no-no bigtime. Young clones can always be dipped and you simply start fresh, this can be less stress than combating mites cycle after cycle.
Many times clones are improperly labeled and its quite common for me to see meds grown from a cutting from a club that is Not what the grower was told. While it takes additional time and effort many times it can be safer and more productive to actually start some good seeds and find your own elite clone sans bugs and fungus.
I will cover how to start seeds and select a good female quickly in my next article.
You can learn just about anything about indoor growing in my how to forums on Breedbay
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grobofotwanky

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Always such great advice. Not to mention the fantastic seeds. Thanks for all you do chief, my garden wouldn't be the way it is without it.
 

pbsmith

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mr cool
have just discovered website, amazed and appreciative of the shared info. i have found that a couple of hours of sulfur vapor helps greatly to control the nasty mildew on new clones. any thoughts?

btw- after memorizing your dank book i got a hold of some querkle cuttings and vortex seeds. out of five seeds, four germinated dec. 1, two girls and two boys. i really would like to cross the boys with some of my favorite girls: trainwreck/afgani, HOG, LA Confidential, and sour grape. i guess my question is, does it bother you people use your work? could i get your permission?

anyways- getting nice results using with your supersoil recipe.

smith
 

robb1

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The other big issue with clones is the dreaded Powdery mildew and it is also invisible in spore form meaning your clone can look perfectly healthy and as soon as conditions are right powered mildew can spread so fast it can literally destroy a garden in days. Keeping your humidity low and temps between 70-74 during the dark cycle will severely hamper mildews ability to spread so with Mildew think Environment before treatment, if your conditions are poor no treatment will stop the spread of PM.
I have had some really good results using Safer mildew treatment made up of natural oils like garlic and cinnamon. During the winter months any new clone is treated upon arrival and again while it is in the vegative state. Some old timers like to use lemon water but my research tells me that they actually like a slightly acidic condition. Air movement is also crucial to prevent mildew.
Sometimes infestations take drastic measures and I have taken down entire grow rooms killed all the early flowering plants and fogged my rooms to prevent infestation. Sometimes this can be the only solution as treating flowering plants is a no-no bigtime. Young clones can always be dipped and you simply start fresh, this can be less stress than combating mites cycle after cycle.
Many times clones are improperly labeled and its quite common for me to see meds grown from a cutting from a club that is Not what the grower was told. While it takes additional time and effort many times it can be safer and more productive to actually start some good seeds and find your own elite clone sans bugs and fungus.
I will cover how to start seeds and select a good female quickly in my next article.
You can learn just about anything about indoor growing in my how to forums on Breedbay
Subcool
Sub...love your work!!! I just read a thread you had about sativa's foxtailing under intense light. My are doing it like crazy (SSH). I'm a legal mmj patient in Colorado, I am about to put some chernobyl into flowering, and I'm not sure if I need to worry about them foxtailing. Do any of your strains foxtail? I have some chernobyl, JTR, and some Spacejill. If I do need to worry, should I ease them into the intense light (dim my ballast), or just keep them further from the intense light? Hope you get this Sub. Thanks for everything, Robbie
 

subcool

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All Cannabis will foxtail dont be so quick to lower your bulb many strains actually do better with bulb about 18" above.

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