Clones showing odd symptoms.

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DankBucket

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I'm growing these atm in my closet with just a fan and a 600w mars hydro light. I Water them every 4 -5 days they've been showing signs of being hungry but also bugs or something. I find these white spots n whatnot... I've searched and searched for any signs of mites or ANYTHING. Not a thing in site and have treated it a few times with dilute hydrogen peroxide and a few other ingredients. And the symptoms have gotten only slightly worse. Any idea what's going on, anyone?
 

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DankBucket said:
I'm growing these atm in my closet with just a fan and a 600w mars hydro light. I Water them every 4 -5 days they've been showing signs of being hungry but also bugs or something. I find these white spots n whatnot... I've searched and searched for any signs of mites or ANYTHING. Not a thing in site and have treated it a few times with dilute hydrogen peroxide and a few other ingredients. And the symptoms have gotten only slightly worse. Any idea what's going on, anyone?
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They look great? Maybe a little hungry like you said. Are you water only soil now or nutrients?
 
OldMedUser

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Are they rooted yet? If not that's a lot of light to try to get cuttings to root.

I'd stop spraying them with stuff as it's more likely to do harm than good. I never spray cuttings but the inside and bottom of the dome get a spray to keep the RH really high so they don't droop. If in the veg room they are off to the side a good distance from the light or under a 23W CFL if on their own.

I'm not seeing any kind of bug damage but maybe some too much TLC damage which harms more plants than neglect. ;)

Don't spray them!

:peace:
 
BobCajun

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Looks like magnesium deficiency, just give them some epsom salt, magnesium sulfate, about 1/4 gram per liter of water. If that doesn't help then I guess it's something else. If by white spots you meant something other than the lighter areas between the leaf veins then I don't know what that would be. I couldn't actually see any white spots in the photos.
 
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DankBucket

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OldMedUser said:
Are they rooted yet? If not that's a lot of light to try to get cuttings to root.

I'd stop spraying them with stuff as it's more likely to do harm than good. I never spray cuttings but the inside and bottom of the dome get a spray to keep the RH really high so they don't droop. If in the veg room they are off to the side a good distance from the light or under a 23W CFL if on their own.

I'm not seeing any kind of bug damage but maybe some too much TLC damage which harms more plants than neglect. ;)

Don't spray them!

:peace:
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Yes they're rooted gave been for a while and have grown quite a bit. They're starting show some more or big damage for sure I'll get better pics. I've only been spraying them again recently just to treat for mites. If it gets worse I'll be able to show you. But yeah they havent been being sprayed for the last 2 weeks
 
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DankBucket

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BobCajun said:
Looks like magnesium deficiency, just give them some epsom salt, magnesium sulfate, about 1/4 gram per liter of water. If that doesn't help then I guess it's something else. If by white spots you meant something other than the lighter areas between the leaf veins then I don't know what that would be. I couldn't actually see any white spots in the photos.
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It looks like magnesium deficiency to me as well, I gave them some Epsom salts along with a regular feeding. I'll get some better pictures of the spotting later. I removed a lot of leafs
 
OldMedUser

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DankBucket said:
This is the white spotting that's happening.. have no idea what's going on
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That's a weird condition for sure but if you aren't finding any actual mites I wouldn't be treating for them unless it's those super tiny mites that I can't recall the name of atm. But then you just need higher magnification to see them so I'd be doing that. I bought a USB scope that does up to 1000X but find that normal mites are easy enough to see at 10X and visible with just my reading glasses on. I'm dealing with thrips atm and really getting to hate all bugs! :mad:

:peace:
 
BobCajun

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I saw little white things on the leaf at the top of the first image. Is it just debris or something living? But if there's no eggs on the underside of the leaves and you don't see mites then I guess it's just something else. Probably nothing to worry about, seem to be growing well enough. Maybe too much light, you said you're using a 600w LED. Kind of way too much for 4 week old plants. That's probably it right there. Or is it dimmable and you turned it down? You also said you hit them with peroxide. Possibly that did something but it's probably too much light/heat.
 
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DankBucket

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BobCajun said:
I saw little white things on the leaf at the top of the first image. Is it just debris or something living? But if there's no eggs on the underside of the leaves and you don't see mites then I guess it's just something else. Probably nothing to worry about, seem to be growing well enough. Maybe too much light, you said you're using a 600w LED. Kind of way too much for 4 week old plants. That's probably it right there. Or is it dimmable and you turned it down? You also said you hit them with peroxide. Possibly that did something but it's probably too much light/heat.
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I'm not sure that's my problem it could be little soap particles that I sprayed or also eggs I've been taking them off and inspecting them, cant find anything. The white particles just turn to dust kinda so I suspect soap and not eggs. I've been seeing little fruit fly things. Not fungus gnats I've seen and dealt with those in my girlfriends plants. But cant seem to get rid of these ones. So small I cant smack em out of the air.
 
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DankBucket said:
I'm not sure that's my problem it could be little soap particles that I sprayed or also eggs I've been taking them off and inspecting them, cant find anything. The white particles just turn to dust kinda so I suspect soap and not eggs. I've been seeing little fruit fly things. Not fungus gnats I've seen and dealt with those in my girlfriends plants. But cant seem to get rid of these ones. So small I cant smack em out of the air.
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It could be entirely possible they're just a bit stressed and were hungry. I' haven't been doing much to them.
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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They'll probably be fine just don't burn the f out them with a 600 watt LED. That's enough for about 2 square meters/yards.
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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Yeah they look alright, you were worried for nothing. I hope it's a large closet though with that 600w light. Must be incredibly hot in there.
 
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