Cloning a clone of a clone?

Holylander

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colonuggs said:
now guys come on ....you never heard of the 7 year old bonzi marijuana moms??

You can pull 25-30 cuts a month.... this is a 7 year old bonzi mom trimmed down to this



once a year you have to trim the root ball and add fresh growing medium
Same plant...30 days later :) with new growth and cuttings just waiting to be taken


When you grow bonzi moms.... you have to take your cuttings or trim the plant once a month.... don't matter if you need the cutting or not..... you have to keep the bonzi trimmed up. You can keep a lot of strains in a small area ......look 24 different strains bonzi moms in a 2 ft x 4 ft area
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Haha, you are truly awesome dude! x100 likes.
 
JD_85

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my GDP OG Kusk is still healthy and ive never kept a mother. been alive for 2.5 years now
 
mattypp

mattypp

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I'm on my 4th generation of cloning clones on my Dinafem White Widow and I have absolutely no issues with hermies. The last set of clones I ran (generation 3) actually finished faster than any others before it at 8 1/2 weeks. All others before were 10-12 weeks to finish. I'm not sure if me getting a better hold on the conditions in the grow room caused that or what, but I've seen no ill effects from this method.
 
TheChemist77

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have any of u heard that u can take a cutting off a plant and get it to grow on another plant? a friend of mine swears he took a cut off a nl and a bubblgum and put the branch from the bubblgum onto the nl plant w a stint and tape and it became a branch on that plant.. is this even possible? and if so, would that branch become a new strain?
 
JD_85

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TheChemist77 said:
have any of u heard that u can take a cutting off a plant and get it to grow on another plant? a friend of mine swears he took a cut off a nl and a bubblgum and put the branch from the bubblgum onto the nl plant w a stint and tape and it became a branch on that plant.. is this even possible? and if so, would that branch become a new strain?
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theres a thred on here called, New (old) idea for new (old) grafting technique. talks a lot about this
 
Jimmyjonestoo

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TheChemist77 said:
have any of u heard that u can take a cutting off a plant and get it to grow on another plant? a friend of mine swears he took a cut off a nl and a bubblgum and put the branch from the bubblgum onto the nl plant w a stint and tape and it became a branch on that plant.. is this even possible? and if so, would that branch become a new strain?
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Its called grafting and yes its very possible. Used a lot in fruit orchards. If you put a bubblegum branch on a nl plant its still bubblegum just on a nl root stock. Grafting can be helpful for those who want multiple strains but want to stay within the legal plant count.
 
GreatwhiteNorth

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TheChemist77 said:
have any of u heard that u can take a cutting off a plant and get it to grow on another plant? a friend of mine swears he took a cut off a nl and a bubblgum and put the branch from the bubblgum onto the nl plant w a stint and tape and it became a branch on that plant.. is this even possible? and if so, would that branch become a new strain?
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1) Yes it is possible.
2) No, it would not be a new strain, you would just have a NL plant with a BG branch.
3) Cannabis is an annual - why bother?
 
Daub Marley

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At this point I am stupid when it comes to genetics. That much I'll admit, but probably most ppl in this thread know a lot less than me. Wake up and realize that you don't know shit and maybe you'll start to learn something.
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If you don't think genetics change you don't know anything about genetics...
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Exactly! Besides the obvious mutations what about epigenetics?
 
TheChemist77

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mattypp said:
I'm on my 4th generation of cloning clones on my Dinafem White Widow and I have absolutely no issues with hermies. The last set of clones I ran (generation 3) actually finished faster than any others before it at 8 1/2 weeks. All others before were 10-12 weeks to finish. I'm not sure if me getting a better hold on the conditions in the grow room caused that or what, but I've seen no ill effects from this method.
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i had the same thing happen to me, my original misty mother took 8 weeks to finish.after my 3rd gen of clones of clones they finished in 50 days,,after 3 yrs of cloning clones always finished in 50 days and i believe they got more potent,more vigour,bigger buds...
 
TheChemist77

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as long as u always keep the clones stress free and always pic the fastest most vigourus cole to be ur next mom, i believe you wont lose potency,,maybe after years and only if it gets stressed..i kept coning clones for 5 years w/ no loss of yield r potency, always kept the first one to root to be my next mom..
 
TheChemist77

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if u think about it, keeping 1 original mom to clone off for years, there is a bigger chance of her getting stress somhow.. but w/ a clone of her thats only around for a month to cloe again then keep a clone of that for a mom,bthey dont last as long therefore have less chance of getting stressed conditions..just my thoughts..
 
norcalmopar

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I have worked some of the same cuts 5 years and more, I like to keep my mothers separate so I can take cuts whenever I want, but I've also seen hybrids that look strong clone one maybe two, and just go downhill from there because of cloning clones, its in the genes. its might be reasonable to do every decade or so keep a mother fresh if you know your keeping it, but I personally would not every pull. I have friends that do, but they also change cuts more frequently than I do
 
norcalmopar

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BDOGKush said:
Right, that was my thought on the matter and recently had a friend argue with me for over an hour on the subject because he doesn't want to see this cut go. This cut used to pull 2+ oz a plant just lolipopping and letting it do its thing, hardly pulls an ounce a plant under exact same feeding regiment and grow conditions anymore. Potency is still there, taste and smell are there, just grows weak branches and smaller, slightly fluffier buds now.
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This is the kind of thing I have observed, more often than not the grower is unknowingly overcompensating and basically developing a low stress training regiment to maintain quality at cost of yield. Usually from somewhere over 1lb per 750 to just under, not much but enough.
 
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GreatwhiteNorth

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I like to pull clones off & veg them up to then flower running the mothers to harvest too.
Mid flower or so I'll pull clones from the prettiest ones and run mother for the next chop.
It's worked for over 15 years with not a glitch.

Edit: Not to say I run 15 y/o plants - I don't. 3-5 years old max is more like it.
Cooler phenos come along & due to plant count/available lighting I can't keep too many.
I've not noticed any decline in potency or vigor.
 
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Bootheel Grower

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A good friend of mine told me this yrs ago. And I've found it to be some of the best advice I've ever received when it comes to mothers and clones.. When your growing indoors year after year and using the same mothers for clones after a couple generation you start to notice a degredation of the plant..(which I had always been told was genetic) This degradation is spectrum degradation from never receiving natural light.. So to fix this once a year I take my mothers outside for 2 or 3 weeks to let them air out and breathe and bask in mother natures light.. And you will not believe the difference you will see.. That clone battered mother turns back into a beautiful lush plant.. All of her damaged tissue has heeled. And your ready to go for another year.. This same principle works with clones. If you have a clone of a clone and you are feeling like the plant is starting to degradate. Just take the clone put it outside let it revitalize and you are back on track!!!! I usually put mine outside the second week of June that way there is no chance of it being triggered to bud.
 
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I'm with you mattypp I had a pack of c99 from Joey seeds that I ran for 9 generations and I swear each one was better than the last in every category taste, aroma, yields etc.Now this was several years ago,but none the less.
 
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