Cloning in flower, leaving clones in flower?

kamut

Active Member
Can you take clones from a plant on 12/12 and then leave the clones on 12/12 and have them root while they're budding?

I grow legally and have plant a limit. I'm in a funny situation where I could have more plants on 12/12, but I don't have anywhere to get them except off other plants that are already in flower.
 

MRGreenThum

Active Member
I personally wouldnt do that unless you wanted to make use of your Suckers( bottom growth that isnt getting sufficient light). IMO you would probably get more bud wise if you left them on the plant and didnt stress them from cutting them! It would set that bit of clones back from your regular harvest by quite a bit, and it wouldnt be that much of a bud difference if at all!
 

Spelljunkie

Member
I'll try to update you on a little experiment I have going on:

Made a colloidal silver generator and made my own colloidal silver (CS). Spraying the CS on 2 branches, only, caused them both to hermie. When I was sure it worked (saw the unmistakable balls), I cut up one branch into its smaller parts and planted them in rockwool (stem dipped in Clonex then in Great White root powder). There are 4 smaller branches in the rockwool. The other branch I left alone in case the rockwool ones don't work.

The 4 cubes are in cloning tray with clear vented cover, right next to the mother - in the flower room. It has been a little over a week and 3 of the 4 look nice and healthy (the larger branch top just isn't doing well in the rockwool). So I basically cut clones from a flowering mother at about 2/12 weeks in - when far enough into flower to fully identify the male parts, put them in rockwool, put them in a clone kit, and put them right next to the mother in the flower room.

I did this just to see I can keep the cuttings alive long enough for pollen to fully ripen, then use it to pollinate a clone and the mother. The branch I didn't cut is just for backup pollen. I am not sure how long til I know the results. If they live long enough for their pollen to mature, I will also tear open the rockwool to see if they rooted. My experiment should answer your question...

In the mean time... bongsmilie
 

M B P

Active Member
no... you can't do that. Its very difficult to clone a plant well into bloom. I once tried and failed 6/6. I've read that its possible. If you could do it, the plant would basically use all its energy to grow roots... then after some time (if you left it on 12/12/) it would continue on its bloom phase... but it wouldn't do very well... being so small and having a horrible root structure. The only reason you might want to try to take clones from a blooming plant is if you want to re-veg them and grow them for a while. But again... its difficult to clone a plant that's well into bloom.
 

tiltswitch

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u can clone from a plant fine but i wouldnt recommend it after 4 week of flower...iv done it a few times so i can get a decent size clone...then i either stick it veggin or leave under the light for 12/12 perpetual like
 

Lysemith, Lowkey

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I was looking for an answer to whether or not you can just throw cuttings into a flower room and they would root, but then I remembered: Ive already done this shit.

I took a "sucker" bud from my white widow plant at about 5 weeks in, possibly more, probably less; and just stuck the fucker in a rapid rooter and put it in a dixie cup with a bit of distilled water and superthrive and let it do its thing next on top of the mother plants container in the flower room. I don't think I even checked on it for a week, I think it took about 3 weeks to root to the point I wanted, but you could pick the whole thing up by the stem after a week. when the thing regrew (not any pics of process, sorry, but I can take some of it now) it regrew just like a revegged-harvested plant would, single mutant leaves, and many many stems.
 

Lysemith, Lowkey

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One thing to note about the original mother white widow plant is that it was ricockulously hardy, I tried to kill it through neglect and it wouldnt die, and that the Original Mother plant also flowered for a ridiculously long time, about 14 weeks.

I am thinking that the extremely hardy characteristics of the genetics may play a role with my clone making it, I would suggest providing an optimum environment, most people agree that optimum is 18/6 to 24/0 light, with 80%+ humidity, with a water temp of about 70 and an ambient temp of about 80, with oxygenated water.
 

Spelljunkie

Member
Mother had 2 branches sprayed with colloidal silver to induce hermie - and one branch was cut up and put into these cubes. As stated before, I just cut these about a ten days ago. As you can see from the picture, they are pretty far into flower to develope balls that size (i wish pic quality was a little better). Now 2 of the cuttings have roots showing through the bottom of the cube. These clones have never left the flower room. I'm just letting the pollen ripen, but will let them continue to grow to see what happens.

Conclusion so far: clones cut from a mother 4 weeks into flower, put into rockwool, and left in the flower room, will indeed continue to grow and WILL produce roots.

However, there still won't be enough time for these to grow into full size plants or anything. They are just gonna be the branches continuing to grow. So though it will produce roots, there is really no benefit to doing it to a female. They probably would grow faster bigger if you just left them on the plant, lol. It is actually working perfectly for my plans, though...
 
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