Cloning Questions

Hello everyone...

Seems to be there are 100 different methods of cloning, each probably with their benefits and drawbacks. I had some basic questions since I am seeing and hearing contradictory information.

Should clones be put under direct light when rooting? If yes, what cycle (24/0, 18/6, 12/12) is most preferred?

(On one hand, it makes sense to give them light so they can grow but will direct light evaporate much needed moisture... your thoughts are appreciated!)

Do you plant the cutting directly into the medium or do you put the stem-end of the cutting into some water until it roots at which point you place it in your medium?

I am sure I will have more questions...

Thanks!!

i do 18/6 on low light.

My first clone look at post #8 and watch the videos (5 min each).

RandyRocket said:

i do 18/6 on low light.

My first clone look at post #8 and watch the videos (5 min each).

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Thanks man. I'll take a look.

My friend took a number of cuttings, tried to root them directly in coco under 24/0 under a 53w T5 light and canopied in plastic wrap.

Unfortunately, only a small portion seem to have rooted and look good. Others look like they may have rooted (sprouting new growth) but is quite yellow.

hell sum time i clone by just dipin and stickin directly in my soil mixtrue (1/3 pearlite , wormcasting and potting soil and a couple cups of bat guano)

then i just put thme in the shade out side and keep em wet.

PEACE

I've always liked seeing that yellowing a tad as long as its not coupled with brown spots or dried out leaves.. Means the clone is working hard, and growing stuff, and can probably handle the ittiest bittiest dose of high P fertilizer..
A bowl of water on a desktop coffee warmer etc in there can really up the humidity.. But method of warming depends on ambient conditions too.. You want their environment to be perhaps 78-82°F that pertains to the medium even more than their canopy.. Spraying them is good, but they really prefer a lot of humidity..
But kremnon's method can work great too.. I always tell ppl that deer etc were cloning plants long before humans figured it out..

Thanks birn2kill.

Unfortunately, there are some with brown spots/dry leaves on some of them. Are those shot or can it be remedied?

You'd be amazed by what you can pull from the dead if you give them time and slightly nicer conditions.. And it may be a no harm, no foul situation anyways, sometimes that won't even really phase them.. What does the center growth look like??

my plant is two feet tall with white hairs, about 12 inches wide, is it too late to try and clone, the top really looks nice was thinking about it, also it is grown outside and could I put the clone in root stimulator?

How I do it:

I cut the clone at a 45 degree angle, just below a node.
I then use a clean razor blade, and barely scratch the node area, to help stimulate root growth. About 3 slices, one set on each side of the stem.
I then dip it into my cloning powder (forget offhand what it is...shultz i think). I also snip off the outside half of the larger leaves. That will help the plant put energy into growing roots, and not the leaves.
Then I plant it gently, and not too deep, into a 3 inch pot filled with just peat moss.
I then place the clones into a small translucent wal mart storage bin, with about 2 inches deep of perlite in the bottom.
I add water to the perlite, but not so much that the peat moss will sit in water. Just enough to keep it humid, around 95%.
Finally, I place the container in my veg area, and they get 18/6 light.
I remove the lid about two or three times a day, to help vent the stale air.
Once I see roots coming out the bottom, I transplant them.
Until the roots are established I WOULD NOT give them ANY nutes whatsoever.

Hope that helps...hope I didnt miss anything, lol

You can still clone cwallace, but don't be too greedy lest you kill this plants potential..
And pokes, do you soak the hell out of the peat in alkaline water to neutralize acidity?? Peat is really damn acidic.. I find they root faster closer to neutral, but on the otherhand, most bacteria really don't like low pH..

cwallace, you really should start your own thread if you have a question. Try not to hijack other peoples threads.

born2kill, i don't soak the peat moss at all. I just use it as-is. I also don't have a 100% survival rate, more like 75%, but since I have 2 mothers, and only room to flower 2-4 clones at a time, I really don't need a high survival rate. I'm sure my method can be improved upon, but for my needs, just small closet grows, it does the job just fine.

And a side tip to the soaking is the water from soaking peat makes an excellently buffered (pH stable) pH down to mix with higher pH water in whatever proportion you need..

sorry my bad, just a new one to this site not to offend sorry again

Atleast it was somewhat related to the topic, and the title almost implies an open thread.. Not as bad as an electrical question in a plant problem thread..

born2killspam said:

Atleast it was somewhat related to the topic, and the title almost implies an open thread.. Not as bad as an electrical question in a plant problem thread..

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Thanks guys... I will be getting an EZ-Clone soon enough but just need to make it to then.

No need to buy anything gimmicky.. Cloning is EZ enough without one..

im getting ready to take a bunch of clones a bout 75 to fill an order. looks like im gonna have to buy a dome. or make one

Domes are easy to make, but if you're using plugs of some sort for rooting, then those 2" tall black 3x3 trays help alot if you don't intend to plant into bigger things the moment the roots pop out and see light.. And I've never seen them sold without the domes.. Its the right time of year though.. Walmart etc should have them..
All you need for a dome though is a small rubbermaid tray, and a clear garbage bag..

I use a small indoor greenhouse too clone, have yet too have a single problem... its basically a 2shelf version of this http://www.amazon.com/Misco-Home-Garden-4%2dShelf-Greenhouse/dp/B000S6OH1O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1244763583&sr=1-2 - got mine for under 20 bucks, well worth it