Clonning Help

kngofhearts2diefor

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this is my first time cloning. i chose to clone of my only outdoors mother plant that is currently between it 4-5 week flower..i chose the least mature cuttings to pick from.

Im using ,root harmone,and rockwool cubes that purchased last night(ph7) and isoaked them in spring water with a bloom booster high in P,K(ph5) and soaked them over night and rung them out. i took the cutting this moring and placed them in a dome and put them outside under a complact flourescent. do to the sun hitting them part of them curled up, but still look decent,i trashed 1 and took a new cutting(bottom left) here is my only picture i can take better more dteailed later.

everything okay?
 

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Cr8z13

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I believe rockwool is supposed to be soaked in 5.5 pH. You should be misting the humidity dome too.
 

Mr.Therapy Man

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If this is your first time cloning you should have taken cuttings way before now.Cloning success comes with experience and time.You chose to take cuttings late and they are not going to take that easy.Good luck and next year take your cuttings a month or so earlier.......Peace
 

Cr8z13

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Pretty much, yeah. Don't overwater either. Wait until the top layer of rockwool dries between waterings.
 

NOWitall

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those longer branches curled up becuase the plant cant take up enough water tp support all of it (cut the long ones off)

ive found clones taken during flower can root faster, but suffer a severe growth delay switching back to veg.

humidity dome a good thing, leave a small airgap, mist 3-4 times daily (more or less as they see fit)

low light conditions, not dirrect sunlight, more like reading light, slow down the photosynthesis reduce water needs, give it more time/energy for root growth.

also try the power of prayer, i pray over my plants at least 75 times a day, complete with self flagellation. and if that doesnt work try a blood sacrifice. and if that doesnt work, just make fun of them till they develope an eating dissorder :-)
 

kngofhearts2diefor

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thanks for the responces :) i did mist them 2 times today lightly and have just been letting them do there thing.i have left them outside do to problems with them being inside...(parental) so they are less likely to snoop around outside lol

so your saying to cut off the leaves that had shriveled up?and is temps outside aroun40-60 okay because of the light in the dome being directly above them?
 

Cr8z13

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Look how this guy clips the leaves at around 2:42

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naked gardener

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I took some cuttings about a week or so ago from plants @ 5 week flower (I usually cut them during last week veg or 1st week flower--but due to some undesirable curcumstances I had to take these when I did.)

#1 Is there any such thing as keeping environment TOO humid for cuttings??

here's my situation--I just use a white styrofoam cooler and saran wrap w a high quality flourescent (as a kind of humidity dome)--this set up had always worked really well for me in the past, but this is my first garden after over a 2 yr hiatus... anyway I put the cooler in lrg rubbermaid tub and lay light across the top)

I use very mild nutrient solution in mist bottle, check ph & keep at 5.5--and run fresh through rockwool cube every other day

These babies are very important to me and I almost wonder if I'm watering cubes too much--if nutes are too strong/ weak--wanted to post pic but camera cord not here right now

Anyway they are not doing well--one lil girl has brown edges on every leaf (not curling--just really dark) the others (4) are yellowing and turning WHITE--ALMOST TRANSPARENT--

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS COULD MEAN?????? or What I should DO??

I will try to get pics up....

I do not know how to start a thread on here..which is usually fine---the answers are already here somewhere--but man, that search feature is baffling..

Help me end my babies' suffering please--I'm afraid they are dying...If it wasn;t for the girl w brown edges I would think defic. for sure...BUT I DON"T KNOW!!!:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
 

naked gardener

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i've probably been overwatering for one thing, not letting top of rw dry out--thanks cr8z13--yeah, most all of my cuttings in the past did just fine--and i didn;t pay nearly as much attention to them--apparently that's part of the problem--

but leaves are turning almost CLEAR--I've never seen such a thing-- almost has to be nitrogen def, right?? any input will be appreciated...
 

kngofhearts2diefor

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click roll it ups main guy.pick where you wanna post the thread,ie outdoors indoors,plant problems. then when it comes up in the uper right hand corner itsll say new thread,fin

okay now off my thread lol
 

kngofhearts2diefor

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my grow.

the stuff i have to clone is already halfway into flowering but the lest mature stuff..and my clones are very tiny...thumlength at the most
 

smokedup12

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naked gardener - This is a sign you will be rooting very shortly, my last batch of clones i messed up bad, drowned them in juicy gel relized my problem and recut all the steams because of steam rot, 10 days after recut everything is looking pale, yellow, browning and dieing, but suprise suprise lifted steam out and there are about 10 roots beging on each steam. They''ll be growin new roots getting rid of those old yellow leaves and starting to grow shortly. Funny thing is the worst ones are rooting the best. Ive got a brand new batch of clones ready this time but i was suprised after all the stress and recut the clones still man it

first pic is the almost dead clones just starting to root, second pic is my new and improved batch
 

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Doalude

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In my experiences I have found you should take cuttings that are at least 4 inches long, cut just below a node and while they are still in the veg cycle not after they have been flowering. I have also found that if you use a heat mat it will keep the rockwool cubes warm or even if you have a sprayer type cloner keeping the water warm helps alot. The sprayer type cloner will start showing roots in about 7 days, rockwool cubes will take longer for the roots to show through the cubes.

I Ph the water to 5.5 use the heat mat and I also use Rhizotonic which is a root stimulator, I have had 99% success since starting to do this, before this my success rate was 10-20%, also I have found using the spray time cloner worked best, if you look on the net you can find some that are not too expensive from some people that make they're own. I think the heat mat is the key.......hope this helped.
 

naked gardener

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Thanks smokedup12 for giving me hope--I'm letting rockwool dry more between watering--misting a little less, but w a slightly higher N content--they are still standing and now appear to be greening back up a bit--still no roots showing. I have a little bottle of superthrive--never used it before--I know it is supposed to be a great tonic for stressed plants--but I don't know about cuttings that are rooting--they were cut 10 & 11 days ago...I think they'll be okay, I just hope this stress doesn't affect their overall health, strength and vigor...they came from some good strong beauties--
 

smokedup12

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I should have asked this before but did u flush your mothers with water before u cut? Another mistake i made when cutting clones was giving food to my mothers a day or two before cuttings, making them last 2-3 weeks before even thinking of making roots. Thing is N is something u don’t want in your clones actually blocks roots from growing, basically how i understand it is if the clone already has food there is no need to look for food. You want them to starve and look for food with roots, once they have roots they need to eat.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
I should have asked this before but did u flush your mothers with water before u cut? Another mistake i made when cutting clones was giving food to my mothers a day or two before cuttings, making them last 2-3 weeks before even thinking of making roots. Thing is N is something u don’t want in your clones actually blocks roots from growing, basically how i understand it is if the clone already has food there is no need to look for food. You want them to starve and look for food with roots, once they have roots they need to eat.
this is why the best time for cuting clones is in the 1st 3 weeks in flower, you do not want the nitregon stored in the plants b4 cloning.:mrgreen:
 
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